Character Discussion Luffy is going to be so cool with his new trio.

Where is it stated it was 4 times?
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I meant 3 times but basically:
Fukurou Doriki - 800
Jabra Doriki - 2180

Jabra also had his devil fruit power boost whereas Fukurou didn’t.

The gap between Sanji and Franky was massive back then just like the gap between Sanji and Jinbe is now.
 
Jimbei wont grow much since he already reached his prime, he has been the same for many years, so his growth is small.



He is if we take Sanji with his new PU.



Marco can damage Admirals... but it wont be a lof of damage to call it extreme diff, reason it will be a high diff vs fools like Kizaru or Fujitora who are the weakest. And Marco can really be dameged by Haki, Garp hit on Marco was not even Gear 3.

Sanji was Yc3 tier without his PU, just a Vergo. P1 was weaker for sure but not far. IMO Jimbei at best could give a mid diff battle to Sanji with his PU.





Where is it stated it was 4 times?




Lol.



Yeah, Sanji and Jimbei are near the same level when Sanji didnt had his PU which increased his level several tiers.
Just to the post regarding me. Marco has had free hits on admirals and did no damage. For it to be a high diff you should have done significant damage to the opponent. Think Luffy vs arlong or Zoro vs kaku. Marco vs any admiral at best will be like jinbe vs WW which was a mid diff. Marco isn't anywhere near top tier and it gets proven every time he doesn't have access to his regen. His regen allows him to stall anyone the guy just this are was able to stall 2 others in his tier at the same time because he can make damage irrelevant. While damage is irrelevant for Marco he can fight evenly with just about anyone because he's not take damage while doing it.

Imo Sanji was vet level. The exoskeleton is a great power up. It completely got rid of 1 of sanji's 2 flaws durability while greatly boosting his other stats. Then he unlocked IJ which puts him in the yc 1's or at the very top of high tiers. Jinbe is within the same tier as Sanji which is high tier and Sanji doesn't have some broken ability that allows him to just mid diff jinbe. Jinbe is at least yc3 who fights with water that counters Sanji fire. If anything Sanji should struggle more with jinbe than anyone ordinarily weaker than himself.
 
Jinbe is yc3 to yc2 and this thread is about a trio of commanders. Sanji isn't low diffing him stop it. Yamato and Zoro are both comfortably above Sanji yet he can still be a trio. The point is the sh's don't and won't have a yonko crew so they won't have a commander trio but instead a better Roger crew. Going forward if yamato joins they will have a great 5 of Luffy , Zoro, Sanji, yamato, and jinbe which the weakest 1 will be yc1 or above come Eos. The sh's are going to be far and away the strongest crew ever and the point of jinbe joining was that they were getting a corner stone to the crew.
if Sanji can end Queen in a few kicks he can do that to Jenbe. also it doesnt matter because Sanji with raid suit shits on jenbe. it's over. sanji and Zoro both didnt actually have yc level feats but Oda wanted them to win. they will fight admirals soon and no way jenbe is catching up.
 
if Sanji can end Queen in a few kicks he can do that to Jenbe. also it doesnt matter because Sanji with raid suit shits on jenbe. it's over. sanji and Zoro both didnt actually have yc level feats but Oda wanted them to win. they will fight admirals soon and no way jenbe is catching up.
It wasn't a few kicks he fought queen for more than half a hour. Jinbe isn't someone CURRENT Sanji can mid diff especially if he can counter sanji's fire with his water something queen couldn't do. You talking about future Sanji has nothing to do with now. And Zoro is ahead of Sanji by more than Sanji is ahead of jinbe yet you are trying to hype them together.
 
Just to the post regarding me. Marco has had free hits on admirals and did no damage. For it to be a high diff you should have done significant damage to the opponent. Think Luffy vs arlong or Zoro vs kaku. Marco vs any admiral at best will be like jinbe vs WW which was a mid diff. Marco isn't anywhere near top tier and it gets proven every time he doesn't have access to his regen. His regen allows him to stall anyone the guy just this are was able to stall 2 others in his tier at the same time because he can make damage irrelevant. While damage is irrelevant for Marco he can fight evenly with just about anyone because he's not take damage while doing it.

Imo Sanji was vet level. The exoskeleton is a great power up. It completely got rid of 1 of sanji's 2 flaws durability while greatly boosting his other stats. Then he unlocked IJ which puts him in the yc 1's or at the very top of high tiers. Jinbe is within the same tier as Sanji which is high tier and Sanji doesn't have some broken ability that allows him to just mid diff jinbe. Jinbe is at least yc3 who fights with water that counters Sanji fire. If anything Sanji should struggle more with jinbe than anyone ordinarily weaker than himself.
Fuji was hurt by tired g3 dressrossa luffy's attacks and also got bandaged by revo vets. Marco's attacks make fuji bleed bad
 
It wasn't a few kicks he fought queen for more than half a hour. Jinbe isn't someone CURRENT Sanji can mid diff especially if he can counter sanji's fire with his water something queen couldn't do. You talking about future Sanji has nothing to do with now. And Zoro is ahead of Sanji by more than Sanji is ahead of jinbe yet you are trying to hype them together.
Sanji can use DJ underwater
 
This pattern of three strong commanders is non ecxist. Big Mom even has Katakuri, Cracker, Smothie and Perospero who is Jack level. Whitebeard had Marco, Vista, Jozu and Ace, and we can cite Izou as an opponent of Jack's height, Ace's bounty was low because he was young. All nine of Shanks and Teach's commanders must flirt between levels of YC3 and YC1, with Ben Becham and Shiryu at the level of an admiral. Luffy can have many commanders too: Zoro, Sanji, Yamato, Jinbei, Robin, Franky, Bartolomeo, Sai, and Cavendish. There's no problem.

It's not hard to argue that Robin is Tier YC3, as she easily defeated someone with nearly 500 million bounty, and Hakuba who had 330 million in Dressrosa. When Robin decided to use his true power, it was Low Diffs in Black Maria. I can see Robin beating Perospero without too much trouble.
 
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Fuji was hurt by tired g3 dressrossa luffy's attacks and also got bandaged by revo vets. Marco's attacks make fuji bleed bad
Fuji had a blemish that disappeared the very next chapter stop it.
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Sanji can use DJ underwater
Fire is less effective on water please don't try to make this more complicated than it's needs to be. Simply put jinbe could handle Sanji fire better than queen as water would reduce it's burning damage.
 
Fuji had a blemish that disappeared the very next chapter stop it.
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Fire is less effective on water please don't try to make this more complicated than it's needs to be. Simply put jinbe could handle Sanji fire better than queen as water would reduce it's burning damage.
Fuji's bandages didn't disappear though. You think marco can't hurt fuji where sabo with vets can despite greenbull being there?
 
Fuji's bandages didn't disappear though. You think marco can't hurt fuji where sabo with vets can despite greenbull being there?
My guy you brought up g3 Luffy and now you are bringing up the reverie where we don't know how the characters even fought and sabo someone who's shown more AP than Marco. Luffy for example has forced yi BB to his knees, made garp bleed, and hurting Magellan. Just because a character far weaker than another character can hurt them doesn't somehow scale another to match the character hurt. Just like you Luffy and Fuji point Luffy could hurt Fuji with a g3 punch that doesn't mean kata could now beat Fuji because kata was stronger than dressrosa Luffy. That's just dumb logic which is why you should use what the character has shown. Dude use Marco's feats why do you keep reaching and solely focusing on Fuji the admiral that consistently holds himself back the most? Marco on panel could not damage a admiral with clean hits. Marco's not doing enough damage to say a admiral would need high diff to take him out. For a high diff you need to be significantly damaged and bloodied. Marco has shown nothing that says he can do that to a admiral. Problem with the Marco wank is still the same y'all try to scale him to characters stronger than himself because he can stall them. Marco's AP isn't great it's just ok. At most being generous to Marco he probably has g4 power pre haki pu which just isn't going to do enough damage to a top tier to say he can force a high diff.
 
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