Speculations Luffy is the main liar of the series?

[Artem]

Is Luffy the main deceiver of the series? 1 Promised to defeat kaido and lost 5 times, and in the end Kaido lost to magma. 2 Promised to kick mom's ass and ran away from her every time, and in the end she lost to the Bombs. Why is Duffy such a liar?

 

[Orojackson Refugee]

let's stop the disrespect on luffy. Luffy had his loses, but luffy has achieved feats to make him worth as a yonko

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Is Luffy the main deceiver of the series? 1 Promised to defeat kaido and lost 5 times, and in the end Kaido lost to magma. 2 Promised to kick mom's ass and ran away from her every time, and in the end she lost to the Bombs. Why is Duffy such a liar?

Yeah that does not look good.
But biggest liar is Zoro.
Promised to never lose again to Mihawk until he beats him, went on to lose in almost every arc after that.

 

[Artem]

let's stop the disrespect on luffy. Luffy had his loses, but luffy has achieved feats to make him worth as a yonko

That's the point. Luffy was self-sufficient before Niki, albeit with a lot of pianos, but he developed a mediocre fruit perfectly and was good at it. Now his merits are the fruit of God. It was the fruit of God that brought him to the Low yonko league...

 

[VultureKing]

That's the point. Luffy was self-sufficient before Niki, albeit with a lot of pianos, but he developed a mediocre fruit perfectly and was good at it. Now his merits are the fruit of God. It was the fruit of God that brought him to the Low yonko league...

Not really, nobody for 800 years managed to become strong enough or had enough imagination for it to awaken. Before that it's just a goofy rubber fruit. Luffy got the fruit and pushed it to its limits until it evolved into the fruit of God because he worked hard and earned it.

 

[Nikuzi]

Cope harder

 

[VultureKing]

Mfw understanding something is now considered coping
:laughmoji:
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Like knocking someone out with a massive hit and launching him into the depths of the island isn't considered a victory just because there was magma down there? It's like shooting someone on the head and saying "I didn't kill you, the bullet did".

 

[Artem]

Not really, nobody for 800 years managed to become strong enough or had enough imagination for it to awaken. Before that it's just a goofy rubber fruit. Luffy got the fruit and pushed it to its limits until it evolved into the fruit of God because he worked hard and earned it.

I disagree. According to the above, in order for the fruit to awaken, it was necessary to die... That is, there is not only a latent awakening, but also a resurrection....

 

[Nikuzi]

Mfw understanding something is now considered coping
:laughmoji:
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Like knocking someone out with a massive hit and launching him into the depths of the island isn't considered a victory just because there was magma down there? It's like shooting someone on the head and saying "I didn't kill you, the bullet did".

Not you lmao, the OP. I agree that the magma argument is retarded.

 

[zenox]

Yeah that does not look good.
But biggest liar is Zoro.
Promised to never lose again to Mihawk until he beats him, went on to lose in almost every arc after that.

the promise is still intact if u read the manga that is

 

[traxex123]

Finally, he defeated Kaido, unlike Mr.TalkBig who pretended to sleep all the time

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

the promise is still intact if u read the manga that is

It isn´t.

 

[Adamxero]

Is Luffy the main deceiver of the series? 1 Promised to defeat kaido and lost 5 times, and in the end Kaido lost to magma. 2 Promised to kick mom's ass and ran away from her every time, and in the end she lost to the Bombs. Why is Duffy such a liar?

Imagine saying this despite Zori bring shown to be a fraud.

No ZKK, no new sword god and no rounding up the samurai

:shame:

 

[Kiiro]

If Kaido is dead, then Luffy killed him just as Law and Kidd killed Big Mom, they sent them to their deaths.

 

[Finalbeta]

Brook is the least

Dead men tell no tales (and lies)

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Yeah that does not look good.
But biggest liar is Zoro.
Promised to never lose again to Mihawk until he beats him, went on to lose in almost every arc after that.

Oda says otherwise.

 

[zenox]

It isn´t.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

 

[NotTommy]

Luffy did beat Kaido though. The guy didn't just hop in the magma just cause, he had his flame dragon punched, horn broken and was hurled so far into the ground he reached magma. I agree, it's disappointing he didn't beat Big Mom after all their issues, I would've also liked to see him whoop Jack but what happened was fitting enough.

I feel like some promises though like Luffy whooping Jack or Zoro rounding up the Wano swordsmen shouldn't be taken too far, sometimes stuff simply doesn't go a certain character's way and they got to make due with the current situation and make compromises.

 

[Finalbeta]

Usopp san?