Character Discussion Luffy MOM

LayerZ

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Brush D. Teeth said:
You mean like one week.
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since she apeared .
I legit tought we will never meet luffy mother except maybe in a dragon flashback and Oda will confirm it in sbs a yes this girl in page 5 she is luffy mother .
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U c 4 up da idly said:
This is kumas flashback Ginny who loves Kuma ending up with Dragon would way out of place
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Kuma rejected her and for a good reason .
Bonney do not look like she is half giant except maybe 1 of her buffed future version . It realy possible that after being rejected by Kuma Ginny falled for dragon .
In real life this happen a lot especially since the way she is talking looks like she is not seing kumachi often now .
 
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Herrera95

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You are saying Ginny are both Luffy and Bonney mother with Dragon but they were raised separately?
 
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Herrera95 said:
You are saying Ginny are both Luffy and Bonney mother with Dragon but they were raised separately?
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yes .
This is what im saying Bonney will come later she is not born yet . SHe could be born tought but I think she is not born yet .
ANd luffy is with Garp shanks Makino etc .
I think the father of Bonney is Dragon and the mother of Luffy is ginny making them 100% sibling but they did not grew together.
 
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Herrera95

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LayerZ said:
yes .
This is what im saying Bonney will come later she is not born yet . SHe could be born tought but I think she is not born yet .
ANd luffy is with Garp shanks Makino etc .
I think the father of Bonney is Dragon and the mother of Luffy is ginny making them 100% sibling but they did not grew together.
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What would be the reason for that? Why would Kuma take care of Bonney but not Luffy and Garp raise Luffy but not Bonney.
 
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Herrera95 said:
What would be the reason for that? Why would Kuma take care of Bonney but not Luffy and Garp raise Luffy but not Bonney.
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Bonney probably was not born in east blue .
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Urouge D. Rouge said:
I think Bonney will be asister of luffy

but that also conflicts with m idea of her being a clone of ginny
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I been hearing about this theory a clone of Ginny or she is Ginny but lost her memory .
Those are interesting one .
 
Jesse Pinkman

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So Kuma will be Snape of One piece dude was taking pain of losing his lover to Dragon. I am sorry to say it won’t make sense Dragon flirting with his Revo member .

To me Ginny barely had interactions with Dragon. Ivankov would have known if they were in love .

My guess is Dragon took break from Revo army in between time line , maybe he lost purpose on what he was doing , Luffy’s mother helped him gain confidence . I think Kuma would be entrusted to give his son to Garp after his mother’s death .

welps I am on headcanon region . I don’t think Ginny is Luffy’s mother . Oda loves to confuse readers but we might know in Dragon’s flashback .
 
Devilbat

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As much as her personality sorta fits, and the timeline makes it plausible, I am not really sold on the idea yet.

Although people hearts are fickle and can change, Ginny could've gotten over Kuma and fallen for Dragon, Kuma could've gotten to the point when he sees Ginny as a sister rather than a lover, so it's not entirely impossible.
 
Jesse Pinkman

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Devilbat said:
As much as her personality sorta fits, and the timeline makes it plausible, I am not really sold on the idea yet.

Although people hearts are fickle and can change, Ginny could've gotten over Kuma and fallen for Dragon, Kuma could've gotten to the point when he sees Ginny as a sister rather than a lover, so it's not entirely impossible.
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Umm why would she talk about Kuma and desperately wants to see him not Dragon after timeskip don’t you think she would love to see her husband than meeting her former lover it makes no sense
 
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Jesse Pinkman said:
Umm why would she talk about Kuma and desperately wants to see him not Dragon after timeskip don’t you think she would love to see her husband than meeting her former lover it makes no sense
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Because she did'nt saw him in a while
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RebelliousSoma said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1720126744030585174

Just came across this. So instead of Dragon stealing Kuma's girl this guy thinks Kuma gave his son over to dragon for adoption.
It doesn't explain the similarity with Garp though.

I disagree with this theory.
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I also disagree with it luffy look too much like garp
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Devilbat said:
Knowing Kuma he wouldn't dare to procreate.

So I disagree with this theory as well.
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NOt only that but that will mean Luffy real name is not Monkey D luffy and he is not a D .
Make absolutely no sense . Oda already lied to us with the devil fruit stop !
 
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IsaziSempi

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I was just hoping that Bonney Urouge and Kuma got nice treatments in the manga. I was hopefully because he saved them for last. Though while they are plot relevant I'm not liking their representation exactly.

Bonney is emotional damsel, stark contrast to the girl who stopped Zoro from cutting a CD with. Ketchup bottle. Kuma seems like the stereotypical black save everybody by sacrifice yourself character who's family is killed to make him suitable for white audiences. Urouge seems strong but not relevantly strong or a big role player. I feel like Urouge will meet Luffy and kind of be a background character who gets ok feats but is eventually be used to hype some lame character with no depth.

My wishes for them are simple. I want Kuma to live and be important and finally get to be free (not going to happen). I want Bonney to really stir shit up and get revenge and be a player till the end(not going to happen) and I want zurpuge to be Pirate king('inevitable)

In b4 Kuma's not black.
 
LayerZ

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IsaziSempi said:
I was just hoping that Bonney Urouge and Kuma got nice treatments in the manga. I was hopefully because he saved them for last. Though while they are plot relevant I'm not liking their representation exactly.

Bonney is emotional damsel, stark contrast to the girl who stopped Zoro from cutting a CD with. Ketchup bottle. Kuma seems like the stereotypical black save everybody by sacrifice yourself character who's family is killed to make him suitable for white audiences. Urouge seems strong but not relevantly strong or a big role player. I feel like Urouge will meet Luffy and kind of be a background character who gets ok feats but is eventually be used to hype some lame character with no depth.

My wishes for them are simple. I want Kuma to live and be important and finally get to be free (not going to happen). I want Bonney to really stir shit up and get revenge and be a player till the end(not going to happen) and I want zurpuge to be Pirate king('inevitable)

In b4 Kuma's not black.
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If we follow the same patern we might meet Urouge at Elbaff .
Yes Kuma is dying Akainu melted half of his face I understand he's tought but I dont see him surviving until the end of this arc .He feel like jesus so he will probably sacrefice himself to save everyone .
Bonney will probably be relevent if Oda do reveal she is luffy biological sister .
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Cruxroux said:
Oda doesn't care about mother's.
Not even Bigmam
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thats why she is dead haha
 
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IsaziSempi

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LayerZ said:
If we follow the same patern we might meet Urouge at Elbaff .
Yes Kuma is dying Akainu melted half of his face I understand he's tought but I dont see him surviving until the end of this arc .He feel like jesus so he will probably sacrefice himself to save everyone .
Bonney will probably be relevent if Oda do reveal she is luffy biological sister .
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If Kuma has an actual mission that only he could do and succeeds then I won't be salty. But I can already see him regaining consciousness only to go before Luffy like Vegeta went before goku right before frieeza killed him. Passing his will to Luffy and saying protect my daughter or some shit. That will leave a bad taste with me.

Bonney is just grabbing random junk and throwing it at people. Oda made it clear she's not in her right mind but the chances of her coming back a badass and not just being useless are slim.

Though there's so many theories of kuma and his fruit that are probably better than the actual thing Oda will do with him. It doesn't make sense for Luffy to be so tired. If Oda made Kuma do all these random things just to die to repel Luffy's page I....
 
LayerZ

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IsaziSempi said:
If Kuma has an actual mission that only he could do and succeeds then I won't be salty. But I can already see him regaining consciousness only to go before Luffy like Vegeta went before goku right before frieeza killed him. Passing his will to Luffy and saying protect my daughter or some shit. That will leave a bad taste with me.

Bonney is just grabbing random junk and throwing it at people. Oda made it clear she's not in her right mind but the chances of her coming back a badass and not just being useless are slim.

Though there's so many theories of kuma and his fruit that are probably better than the actual thing Oda will do with him. It doesn't make sense for Luffy to be so tired. If Oda made Kuma do all these random things just to die to repel Luffy's page I....
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He could do a lot of things .
1 Repell saturn or Kizaru .
2 Take everyone pain and heal the alliance .
3 Continue being Jesus and take everyone pain on the battle field to stop the conflict and die .
4 What Oda cooking .
But we will see how it will happen .
 
LayerZ

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Herrera95 said:
Doesn't make a difference. And who said Luffy was born in East Blue
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isnt that confirmed that luffy was born in windmill vilage ? Anyway yes this change something its about the time line Bonney is soon to be born then ginny die after her birth and kuma take her when luffy is already in east blue .
 
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