Theory Luffys Ultimate Dream: The Man Who Brings Joy To the World (Chapter 1000)

#21
Let me ask you all one simple question.

Think about this really hard, okay?

If what you're saying is true.. and Luffy is NOT a reincarnation of Roger or Joyboy, then why do Roger and Luffy share the ability [The Voice of All Things]?

What is the probability that they would both develop that extremely, extremely, rare ability? Can you explain it.

My explanation for that is that Luffy and Roger share the same soul. Their soul originally comes from Joyboy and that's why they all have that latent ability. Luffy shows it in smaller ways than Roger did, but that's only because Luffy hasn't developed it very much yet. You see glimpses of it developing in him already, though. Like how both Luffy and Roger could hear (1) the Sea Kings and (2) Zunisha. I will have to look for more instances of when he's applied this strange power to provide examples, they're rather difficult to find because they're so rare to see and there's a lot of content to sift through.

But think about that..... how the hell could Roger and Luffy both have [The Voice of All Things] without being reincarnations of Joyboy?

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I need to point something out here.

On the internet... it's believed that Oden, Momonosuke, and Princess [Shirahoshi] also have this ability [The Voice of All Things].

This is a LIE. They do not actually possess the ability to hear the voices of All Things. They can only hear the voices of very specific things, actually. For example, Shirahoshi can ONLY hear The Sea Kings or other forms of sea-life. I believe the same is true of both Oden and Momonosuke, and they can also ONLY hear certain forms of life like Zunisha.

The difference between those people and Roger or Luffy is simple. Roger, and Luffy can actually hear the voices of All Things. That's why they could hear both the Sea Kings AND Zunisha (but, they could not talk!! Not yet).

So, the difference is some people who used a similar ability are being overlapped with people who possess a greater version of that same ability. The thing Oden, Momonosuke, and Shirahoshi do, is DIFFERENT than what Roger and Luffy do.

Oden, Momonosuke, Shirahoshi = Can ONLY hear some voices.
Roger and Luffy = Can hear ALL voices.

Conclusion, ONLY Roger and Luffy have demonstrated the ability to use [The Voice of All Things]. If you wanted to say Oden, Momonosuke, and Vivi have something.... they have [The Voice of Some Things]. It's not the same ability, at least not on the same degree of power. They have a lesser ability compared to Luffy and Roger.

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https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Voice_of_All_Things

This website gives the misleading notion that they all possess the same ability, and gives the reader the idea that Oden, Momonosuke, and Shirahoshi all possess The Voice of All Things.

The Voice of All Things means commanding everything around a person.

It is NOT surprising that the Sea God Poseidon can command any sea creature or the sea environment itself.

It is surprising that Oden, and Momonosuke can command creatures, but it's likely they are actually reincarnations of some kind of God just like how Shirahoshi herself is. This is what explains the latent powers. The reincarnation aspect. So they too can command some kind of creature in some kind of environment.

However, I think you'll see later they can't command creatures of another environment and also may not be able to hear them either. Unlike Luffy and Roger, who can hear anything from any environment (and eventually will be able to command them all too).

Think about it. Really think about it.
 
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#22
The existence of this dream is yet another point reinforcing how important it will be to take down the government.

Let us face it at this point. The PK has become a side quest over the course of the story necessary so that we can move on to the main shit which is to topple the WG, it's been shaping up to this over the course of the story.

Robins plot was the most important from the very beginning
 
#23
The existence of this dream is yet another point reinforcing how important it will be to take down the government.
Basically to defeat the evil that consumes the world you need to be insane, like whitebeard said to luffy "ur young and stupid" or something like that. Because he knew the man roger was waiting for (joyboy) is a very stupid man crazy enough to 1v1 the world
 
#24
Let me ask you all one simple question.

Think about this really hard, okay?

If what you're saying is true.. and Luffy is NOT a reincarnation of Roger or Joyboy, then why do Roger and Luffy share the ability [The Voice of All Things]?

What is the probability that they would both develop that extremely, extremely, rare ability? Can you explain it.

My explanation for that is that Luffy and Roger share the same soul. Their soul originally comes from Joyboy and that's why they all have that latent ability. Luffy shows it in smaller ways than Roger did, but that's only because Luffy hasn't developed it very much yet. You see glimpses of it developing in him already, though. Like how both Luffy and Roger could hear (1) the Sea Kings and (2) Zunisha. I will have to look for more instances of when he's applied this strange power to provide examples, they're rather difficult to find because they're so rare to see and there's a lot of content to sift through.

But think about that..... how the hell could Roger and Luffy both have [The Voice of All Things] without being reincarnations of Joyboy?

---

I need to point something out here.

On the internet... it's believed that Oden, Momonosuke, and Princess [Shirahoshi] also have this ability [The Voice of All Things].

This is a LIE. They do not actually possess the ability to hear the voices of All Things. They can only hear the voices of very specific things, actually. For example, Shirahoshi can ONLY hear The Sea Kings or other forms of sea-life. I believe the same is true of both Oden and Momonosuke, and they can also ONLY hear certain forms of life like Zunisha.

The difference between those people and Roger or Luffy is simple. Roger, and Luffy can actually hear the voices of All Things. That's why they could hear both the Sea Kings AND Zunisha (but, they could not talk!! Not yet).

So, the difference is some people who used a similar ability are being overlapped with people who possess a greater version of that same ability. The thing Oden, Momonosuke, and Shirahoshi do, is DIFFERENT than what Roger and Luffy do.

Oden, Momonosuke, Shirahoshi = Can ONLY hear some voices.
Roger and Luffy = Can hear ALL voices.

Conclusion, ONLY Roger and Luffy have demonstrated the ability to use [The Voice of All Things]. If you wanted to say Oden, Momonosuke, and Vivi have something.... they have [The Voice of Some Things]. It's not the same ability, at least not on the same degree of power. They have a lesser ability compared to Luffy and Roger.

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https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Voice_of_All_Things

This website gives the misleading notion that they all possess the same ability, and gives the reader the idea that Oden, Momonosuke, and Shirahoshi all possess The Voice of All Things.

The Voice of All Things means commanding everything around a person.

It is NOT surprising that the Sea God Poseidon can command any sea creature or the sea environment itself.

It is surprising that Oden, and Momonosuke can command creatures, but it's likely they are actually reincarnations of some kind of God just like how Shirahoshi herself is. This is what explains the latent powers. The reincarnation aspect. So they too can command some kind of creature in some kind of environment.

However, I think you'll see later they can't command creatures of another environment and also may not be able to hear them either. Unlike Luffy and Roger, who can hear anything from any environment (and eventually will be able to command them all too).

Think about it. Really think about it.

Lol pretty simple. You're wrong. Oden could hear the seakings too lmao.



You typed so much just to be wrong, sorry bro. :milaugh:
 
#27
I said you'd likely not see Oden be able to hear or command other creatures.
- He might be able to hear them, I don't think he can command them.
- People who don't actually understand the story will pretend Oden and Princess Shirahoshi being able to hear the Sea Kings will mean they have the voice of all things now. This isn't true. They have a lesser version of it.

Dragon having a baby (Luffy) at the execution.
- Untrue. I said this without thinking, it came from a thought I had a while ago.

You people will never understand the actual story going on here, though. Luffy is just a reincarnated Joyboy, and Shirahoshi is a reincarnated Poseidon, and Momonosuke is a reincarnated Uranus, and Vivi is a reincarnated Pluton.

Joyboy = World King
Shirahoshi = Sea God (Poseidon)
Momonosuke= Land God (Uranus)
Vivi = Sky God (Pluton)

Joyboy has the Voice of All Things because he conquered/united the world as a single kingdom
Shirahoshi has the Voice of the Sea because she conquered/united the sea as a single kingdom
Momonosuke has the Voice of the Land because he conquered/united the land as a kingdom
Vivi has the Voice of the Sky because she conquered or united the sky as a single kingdom

Each of those people has been reviving over and over, and I understand practically everything else going on with the story including all the energy stuff. It's really simple, and it gets pointed out to the reader over and over. But, the audience never understands it. I'm probably one of the only people who do.

Have fun with whatever it is you do in these forums. Nobody makes any real sense but me lol... that's how it will always be. I'm leaving for another place to tell them what's going on in the story. You guys are just going to end up believing whatever you want to believe.

Also I hate you all. You're pathetic people. Every last one of you.
 
#29
I said you'd likely not see Oden be able to hear or command other creatures.
- He might be able to hear them, I don't think he can command them.
- People who don't actually understand the story will pretend Oden and Princess Shirahoshi being able to hear the Sea Kings will mean they have the voice of all things now. This isn't true. They have a lesser version of it.

Dragon having a baby (Luffy) at the execution.
- Untrue. I said this without thinking, it came from a thought I had a while ago.

You people will never understand the actual story going on here, though. Luffy is just a reincarnated Joyboy, and Shirahoshi is a reincarnated Poseidon, and Momonosuke is a reincarnated Uranus, and Vivi is a reincarnated Pluton.

Joyboy = World King
Shirahoshi = Sea God (Poseidon)
Momonosuke= Land God (Uranus)
Vivi = Sky God (Pluton)

Joyboy has the Voice of All Things because he conquered/united the world as a single kingdom
Shirahoshi has the Voice of the Sea because she conquered/united the sea as a single kingdom
Momonosuke has the Voice of the Land because he conquered/united the land as a kingdom
Vivi has the Voice of the Sky because she conquered or united the sky as a single kingdom

Each of those people has been reviving over and over, and I understand practically everything else going on with the story including all the energy stuff. It's really simple, and it gets pointed out to the reader over and over. But, the audience never understands it. I'm probably one of the only people who do.

Have fun with whatever it is you do in these forums. Nobody makes any real sense but me lol... that's how it will always be. I'm leaving for another place to tell them what's going on in the story. You guys are just going to end up believing whatever you want to believe.

Also I hate you all. You're pathetic people. Every last one of you.

LMAO NOW YOURE BACKTRACKING LOL and then insult us looool.

Theres nothing to point at the fact that Luffy can hear more than Oden. Everything Luffy/Roger heard, Oden heard as well. I want you to show me one example lmao
Youre so wrong its funny. PLUTON IS NOT A PERSON ITS A SHIP, A WAR SHIP DID YOU EVEN READ THE STORY???

Gtfo of this thread. Noone likes people like you. Injecting your headcanon into everything with no basis.
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The hell happened lol?
He went insane cause someone proved him wrong. Now hes backtracking, injecting his headcanon and insulting us lmao
 
#30
I said you'd likely not see Oden be able to hear or command other creatures.
- He might be able to hear them, I don't think he can command them.
- People who don't actually understand the story will pretend Oden and Princess Shirahoshi being able to hear the Sea Kings will mean they have the voice of all things now. This isn't true. They have a lesser version of it.

Dragon having a baby (Luffy) at the execution.
- Untrue. I said this without thinking, it came from a thought I had a while ago.

You people will never understand the actual story going on here, though. Luffy is just a reincarnated Joyboy, and Shirahoshi is a reincarnated Poseidon, and Momonosuke is a reincarnated Uranus, and Vivi is a reincarnated Pluton.

Joyboy = World King
Shirahoshi = Sea God (Poseidon)
Momonosuke= Land God (Uranus)
Vivi = Sky God (Pluton)

Joyboy has the Voice of All Things because he conquered/united the world as a single kingdom
Shirahoshi has the Voice of the Sea because she conquered/united the sea as a single kingdom
Momonosuke has the Voice of the Land because he conquered/united the land as a kingdom
Vivi has the Voice of the Sky because she conquered or united the sky as a single kingdom

Each of those people has been reviving over and over, and I understand practically everything else going on with the story including all the energy stuff. It's really simple, and it gets pointed out to the reader over and over. But, the audience never understands it. I'm probably one of the only people who do.

Have fun with whatever it is you do in these forums. Nobody makes any real sense but me lol... that's how it will always be. I'm leaving for another place to tell them what's going on in the story. You guys are just going to end up believing whatever you want to believe.

Also I hate you all. You're pathetic people. Every last one of you.
Yeah gtfo and stop posting gay porn lmao
 
#31
I said you'd likely not see Oden be able to hear or command other creatures.
- He might be able to hear them, I don't think he can command them.
- People who don't actually understand the story will pretend Oden and Princess Shirahoshi being able to hear the Sea Kings will mean they have the voice of all things now. This isn't true. They have a lesser version of it.

Dragon having a baby (Luffy) at the execution.
- Untrue. I said this without thinking, it came from a thought I had a while ago.

You people will never understand the actual story going on here, though. Luffy is just a reincarnated Joyboy, and Shirahoshi is a reincarnated Poseidon, and Momonosuke is a reincarnated Uranus, and Vivi is a reincarnated Pluton.

Joyboy = World King
Shirahoshi = Sea God (Poseidon)
Momonosuke= Land God (Uranus)
Vivi = Sky God (Pluton)

Joyboy has the Voice of All Things because he conquered/united the world as a single kingdom
Shirahoshi has the Voice of the Sea because she conquered/united the sea as a single kingdom
Momonosuke has the Voice of the Land because he conquered/united the land as a kingdom
Vivi has the Voice of the Sky because she conquered or united the sky as a single kingdom

Each of those people has been reviving over and over, and I understand practically everything else going on with the story including all the energy stuff. It's really simple, and it gets pointed out to the reader over and over. But, the audience never understands it. I'm probably one of the only people who do.

Have fun with whatever it is you do in these forums. Nobody makes any real sense but me lol... that's how it will always be. I'm leaving for another place to tell them what's going on in the story. You guys are just going to end up believing whatever you want to believe.

Also I hate you all. You're pathetic people. Every last one of you.

Dont go insulting people because you were proven wrong dude
 
#32
... don't people realize that Luffy has been reincarnating over and over.

He was originally Joyboy. His last incarnation was Roger.
Dragon was carrying a baby at Roger's execution. That baby was Luffy.
The reason why? A new child from the same family has to be around one of the previous members when they die. He took Luffy there to receive Roger's soul. (he knew it was going to happen)

Later, you'll find out JoyBoy probably both looks like Luffy and acts like him. Just like Roger. (in fact... that one Luffy who had wings and used an Ancient Impact Dial on an Ancient King was probably one of the other previous incarnations who also failed like Roger did... or that might have even been Joyboy himself).

Luffy isn't the only one reincarnating, either. Shirahoshi has been reincarnating... and it seems like Princess Vivi and Momonosuke have been reincarnating too, and they all have latent powers. But, that's just my own speculation.
Dragon carry baby Luffy 5 years before Luffy even born???
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I said you'd likely not see Oden be able to hear or command other creatures.
- He might be able to hear them, I don't think he can command them.
- People who don't actually understand the story will pretend Oden and Princess Shirahoshi being able to hear the Sea Kings will mean they have the voice of all things now. This isn't true. They have a lesser version of it.

Dragon having a baby (Luffy) at the execution.
- Untrue. I said this without thinking, it came from a thought I had a while ago.

You people will never understand the actual story going on here, though. Luffy is just a reincarnated Joyboy, and Shirahoshi is a reincarnated Poseidon, and Momonosuke is a reincarnated Uranus, and Vivi is a reincarnated Pluton.

Joyboy = World King
Shirahoshi = Sea God (Poseidon)
Momonosuke= Land God (Uranus)
Vivi = Sky God (Pluton)

Joyboy has the Voice of All Things because he conquered/united the world as a single kingdom
Shirahoshi has the Voice of the Sea because she conquered/united the sea as a single kingdom
Momonosuke has the Voice of the Land because he conquered/united the land as a kingdom
Vivi has the Voice of the Sky because she conquered or united the sky as a single kingdom

Each of those people has been reviving over and over, and I understand practically everything else going on with the story including all the energy stuff. It's really simple, and it gets pointed out to the reader over and over. But, the audience never understands it. I'm probably one of the only people who do.

Have fun with whatever it is you do in these forums. Nobody makes any real sense but me lol... that's how it will always be. I'm leaving for another place to tell them what's going on in the story. You guys are just going to end up believing whatever you want to believe.

Also I hate you all. You're pathetic people. Every last one of you.
Why so salty?:choppawhat:
 
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