Questions & Mysteries Main fights for admirals

#41
SH's are the main characters, my guy. They will be the ones to take out the main obstacles.



No, Zoro VS Kizaru after Luffy tells Zoro to take care of the admirals.




SH's aren't murderers though and in what way Fujitora's sword skills are better than Kizaru's?
Straw hats aren’t murderers but Bartolomeo, Suleiman, jeet, Cavendish are all well known murderers. And you know they’ll be there on Luffys side.

And Kizarus sword isn’t his main fighting skill. It is for Fujitora
 

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#42
Straw hats aren’t murderers but Bartolomeo, Suleiman, jeet, Cavendish are all well known murderers. And you know they’ll be there on Luffys side.

And Kizarus sword isn’t his main fighting skill. It is for Fujitora
Fujitora is going to ally with them because of Luffy and not the rest of them. He already saved Bartho and others along with Luffy during Dressrossa so I don't see why he'd be bothered by them.

You know what it will be funny when you have TWO admirals on your side but they are like nah we will fight weaklings...also why oda build up all this tension inside the marines ranks...

zoro can either be fighting shiryu or the swordman from the 5 elders.
That's how things work my guy. The main characters shine the most and fight in the front lines while the others are going to get sidelined. I have no idea why you think Green Bull will join hands with him.

What does that prove?
 
#43
Fujitora is going to ally with them because of Luffy and not the rest of them. He already saved Bartho and others along with Luffy during Dressrossa so I don't see why he'd be bothered by them.
Fuji won't side with them, he should just leave the WG right now then
What does that prove?
zoro making eye contact with fujitora and clashing with him, unlike kizaru who he never made eye contact with
There's a way better claim for fuji vs zoro just be honest you don't want it because you think fuji is weak
 
#45
Fujitora is going to ally with them because of Luffy and not the rest of them. He already saved Bartho and others along with Luffy during Dressrossa so I don't see why he'd be bothered by them.



That's how things work my guy. The main characters shine the most and fight in the front lines while the others are going to get sidelined. I have no idea why you think Green Bull will join hands with him.



What does that prove?
He didn’t save their lives, he just didn’t kill him. It’s like Smoker sacrificing himself to steal back laws heart. He owed him a debt and he was repaying it.

Fuji isn’t standing with pirates against the world government. That makes no sense for his character as someone who cares about the general public more than anyone else.
 
#46
Fujitora and Ryokugyu will not fight the alliance, they will rebel against the world government from sbs 76:


D: You know how there was a question in SBS Volume 75 about the admiral candidates?? Well I just figured out the reason behind your final choice of the "Ox" and the "Tiger" so here it is...

Hitsujisaru [未申 (坤) - literally "Sheep Monkey"] → Momotaro
Ushitora [丑寅 (艮) - literally "Ox Tiger"] → Kimon [鬼門 - literally "Demon Gate"]Oni [鬼] (Tiger loincloth, Ox horn)
And the "Oni" in this case would be representing the pirates.
Could the two new admirals "Ryokugyu" and "Fujitora" possibly have been created with the concept that, despite them being people of the Marines, deep down inside they are both Admirals who secretly harbor ill feelings towards the World Government (going against the WG → kind of like pirates?) as can be seen with Fujitora's wish to completely abolish the "Shichibukai" system set up by the World Government?
P.N. Tosaka Kouhai
(Translator's Note: The epithets of the first three admirals [Kizaru- literally Yellow Monkey, Akainu- literally Red Dog, and Aokiji- Literally Blue Pheasant] come from the Japanese Legend of Momotaro, where Momotaro befriends a Monkey, Dog, and Pheasant on his journey to defeat an evil Oni in a distant island. This tale is actually based off of Onmyodo [derived from the more commonly known Feng-Shui, a traditional Japanese esoteric cosmology, in which the Ox and the Tiger, aka Ushitora, are the two zodiacs positioned in the Northeastern direction of the Onmyodo diagram and considered to be evil or unlucky. In Momotaro, the Tiger and Ox are represented by the evil Oni.)

O: What? Me, becoming restless? (cold sweat) W-w-what are you talking about? Of course not.
Uhhh, well that was one heck of a complicated theory written on this piece of paper. If you want to, go ahead and try to process it. I haven't said a single thing about whether this theory is correct or incorrect, okay! (cold sweat) Just saying. I j-just happened to throw this postcard in, so that I could show my fans the kinds of questions I've been getting and s-stuff.
@Gol D. Roger thie is why I think he will join fujitora.

Also I think final war will be multi dimensional with im, Blackbeard and Luffy so straw hats pirates will be busy with Blackbeard pirates
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Akainu vs Luffy
Kizaru vs Zoro

*Kizaru has fought: Marco (#2), Rayleigh (#2), and was stated in volume 1000 (Z) to have joined the Marines alongside Akainu. Kizaru is Akainu's best bud and righthand man.
That why sakazuki will trust him to take down Fujitora then ?:catsure:
 

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#47
Fuji won't side with them, he should just leave the WG right now then
He still believes in WG but he'll turn against them or will at least stops supporting them once he learns the truth about the WG and void-century.

zoro making eye contact with fujitora and clashing with him, unlike kizaru who he never made eye contact with
There's a way better claim for fuji vs zoro just be honest you don't want it because you think fuji is weak
Bruh Kizaru literally almost killed Zoro.

He didn’t save their lives, he just didn’t kill him. It’s like Smoker sacrificing himself to steal back laws heart. He owed him a debt and he was repaying it.

Fuji isn’t standing with pirates against the world government. That makes no sense for his character as someone who cares about the general public more than anyone else.
He attacked the fleet who were attacking Luffy and others, that's saving and it doesn't matter what his reasons are. Exactly, Fujitora cares about the general public and he wouldn't mind going against the WG when he learns the truth that the WG is the real evil.
 
#49
He still believes in WG but he'll turn against them or will at least stops supporting them once he learns the truth about the WG and void-century.
Maybe, but fujitora even after saying the WG thinks there a god still refuses to leave and retain his postion as an admiral
Honestly though, I can careless who zoro fights its just hype for epilogue,Eos Helemepoo
Fuji almost sunk him to the bottom of the earth
 
#50
He still believes in WG but he'll turn against them or will at least stops supporting them once he learns the truth about the WG and void-century.



Bruh Kizaru literally almost killed Zoro.



He attacked the fleet who were attacking Luffy and others, that's saving and it doesn't matter what his reasons are. Exactly, Fujitora cares about the general public and he wouldn't mind going against the WG when he learns the truth that the WG is the real evil.
He chose to defeat pirates that aligned themselves with Doffy over pirates who fought against him.

And you can’t deny that the WG saves and protects the general public. We saw their reaction towards “good natured pirates” in Aces flashback and when Whitebeard died. These pirates are feared the world over and Luffy will be no different. Fuji will stand with the world government who defends the general public.
 
#54
Luffy vs Smoker followed by Luffy vs Imu

Hate on Smoker all you want, he’s the only man in the marines Luffy has a legitimate relationship with that has spanned 3 oceans.

Zoro vs Fujitora followed by Zoro vs Gandhi

Yes Fuji’s a good man, but so are Garp and Sengoku and they still tried to stop Whitebeard in the war of the best. Smoker and Coby are also good people and even they will fight against Luffy and his fleet.

Sanji vs Ryokugyu followed by Sanji vs Blond

Ryo I’m excited to see more of, I don’t think Kizaru will be alive by the time the Straw hats attack the world government and Blackbeard will kill him to give his fruit to someone.

Usopp vs Tokikake

Nami vs Momousagi

Non Straw Hats

Sabo vs Akainu

Sabo mimics Ace too well. Akainu has history with both Sabo and Aces mentors. Sabo now has Aces fruit and Akainu insulting Aces fruit just leaves a lot for Sabo vs Akainu.
 
#57
- Luffy vs Akainu: He’s definitely Luffy’s fight, he’s the reason Luffy started to learn Haki, he’s the reason Luffy has a scar smack bang in the middle of his chest as a reminder of his loss, he’s the only person in the story to break Luffy’s will and give up on being PK, he’s the one alongside Blackbeard that was named as the two big changes in the world, he’s the one at who’s name Luffy shows anger, he's the one that actively tried to kill Luffy, he’s the one that killed Ace - the brother Luffy spent a whole 7 years with as opposed to merely 9 months with Sabo lol, the brother who we saw Luffy trying to save multiple arcs upon arcs, only to lose him. Luffy is the one that has history with Akainu, both show grudges and see failures in one another (Luffy failing to save Ace and Akainu failing to kill Luffy allowing him to rise and at that point become PK). Pretty set in stone imo and anyone other than Luffy is not as satisfying both emotionally and narratively (Luffy will then go on to fight Imu - if they are a fighter in a group effort like Kaguya from Naruto, and even Oars/Kaido)

- Zoro vs Kizaru: Similar to what people have brought up that they are both the "number twos" of their respective parties (it can also be Sanji because of the whole light vs speed theme)

- Sanji vs Greenbull: Similar personalities (themes of food and women - he can also fight Kizaru? see above)

- Fujitora maybe switches or refuses to fight? If not then maybe him vs Sabo (they've clashed twice in Dressrosa/the Reverie - perhaps Sabo's ideologies can factor into Fuji switching sides?) he can also fight Zoro (both swordsmen?)

- Admirals vs the SHs is happening, from the very beginning the central conflict has always been Pirates vs Marines, and the admirals have always been a constant threat in arcs like LRR, Sabaody, Marineford, Dressrosa. Keeping them in mind is what allowed Luffy to learn Haki and become stronger to land a hit on them, his efforts and the crew's will pay off. Tertiary parties like the Revolutionaries and the Gorosei/Im are the icing on the cake that is Oda's world building which will prep us for the final war that Whitebeard predicted.
 
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#58
the thought of sanji fighting an admiral seems pretty ridiculous seeing what he has done in WCI and Wano.
if anything yamato and jimbei have a better shot at that matchup.
 
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