Break Week Memes aside would you want to see Vista vs Mihawk

Would you want to see a competion for the wss title?


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#82
Kaku didn't have his df at that time. In the end, Oden was part of kaidos Mt Rushmore and the other 4 are yonkos. Oden might at least be admiral level and his feat was scarring kaido. If Zoro achieved that despite the broken bones and no koh then it's safe to assume that Zoro is above Oden and is now a yonko. Then it would be stupid to think that mihawk is vista level when he is his final opponent. Lol
The df doesn't matter. Rokushiki doesn't measure devil fruits. That was explained in the introduction.

Zoro left an inferior scar that oda didn't even bother drawing the next chapter. It had 0 lasting effect and was entirely pointless. Luffys g2 acoc attacks did more damage in the end.

Not downplaying it tho. For a mid range yc tier character. That's fuckin impressive.

But it's not the feat you make it out to be. Odens attack left kaido on the verge of death. You can't just give odens feats to zoro just cause zoro got a power up and beat a yonkos right hand man
 
#83
The df doesn't matter. Rokushiki doesn't measure devil fruits. That was explained in the introduction.

Zoro left an inferior scar that oda didn't even bother drawing the next chapter. It had 0 lasting effect and was entirely pointless. Luffys g2 acoc attacks did more damage in the end.

Not downplaying it tho. For a mid range yc tier character. That's fuckin impressive.

But it's not the feat you make it out to be. Odens attack left kaido on the verge of death. You can't just give odens feats to zoro just cause zoro got a power up and beat a yonkos right hand man
That was broken bones Zoro. We don't know what would happen to kaido with koh. And if scarring makes Oden yonko level then so is Zoro. It doesn't matter if it wasn't drawn. Scarring kaido automatically makes you yonko level. And he also survived 2x hakai, Then he definitely is yonko level now. Wano is not just Luffy becoming yonko but also Zoro coz this 2 will always be equal.
 
#85
That was broken bones Zoro. We don't know what would happen to kaido with koh. And if scarring makes Oden yonko level then so is Zoro. It doesn't matter if it wasn't drawn. Scarring kaido automatically makes you yonko level. And he also survived 2x hakai, Then he definitely is yonko level now. Wano is not just Luffy becoming yonko but also Zoro coz this 2 will always be equal.
My point was that odens attack was way more effective.

Scarring kaido does not make you yonko level. Who told you this bs? Cause it's laughable to even consider. Zoro left a papercut and Oden had kaido on his deathbed.

Zoro has never once been equal to luffy. Zoro will never be near luffy. Zoro will never breath the dust off luffys heels as he shits on him. The difference in strength is as wide as 4000 and 2200 and always will be. Quit being stupid. Touch some grass. Stop mentioning me. I'm not continuing this conversation.
 
#86
My point was that odens attack was way more effective.

Scarring kaido does not make you yonko level. Who told you this bs? Cause it's laughable to even consider. Zoro left a papercut and Oden had kaido on his deathbed.

Zoro has never once been equal to luffy. Zoro will never be near luffy. Zoro will never breath the dust off luffys heels as he shits on him. The difference in strength is as wide as 4000 and 2200 and always will be. Quit being stupid. Touch some grass. Stop mentioning me. I'm not continuing this conversation.
Even marines/admirals couldn't scar kaido. Only Oden scarred him and that puts him automatically in his top 5. Simple logic will tell you that Zoro is Oden/yonko level. But you're lacking in critical thinking skills, So you think Zoro being a subordinate makes him weaker than Luffy. I guess Law kidd having the same bounty makes them as strong as Luffy. Lol
 
#87
Zoro was not portrayed>= luffy ever.

In the arc prior to thriller bark oda gave us numerical power levels for the sh.

Luffy-4000

Zoro-2200
Sanji-2180

You're clowning. The most that can be drawn from thriller bark is that zoros endurance is top tier and up there with luffy and sanjis.
I am sorry man but i have to call bullshit here lol. :watchout:

What happened in that arc is pretty clear man. Let me break it down for you

2180 wasn't that hard for Sanji and he was able to move and fight afterwards
2200 wasn't that hard for Zoro all he needed was a clean cut and he was able to move and fight afterwards

4000 was too much for Luffy that even after a strongest attack in g3 Lucci was still going "even tho that g3 hurt him alot" and Luffy technically lost if it wasn't for Ussop speech. It took everything for Luffy to win that fight and he was rendered useless after that fight.

It does not take a genius to put 2 and 2 together and realize that Zoro and Sanji are above 2200. They were closer to Luffy.

BUT it does not mean that they could have beaten Lucci because who knows how would fare against him. But we know for sure because of Thriller bark that Zoro at least could have lasted longer than Luffy in terms of endurance.

If you will say that oh no G3 luffy could destroy Zoro and Sanji. I would tell you man look at them against Oars lol. Both of them survived few hits of that just like Lucci tanking a G3 from Luffy.
 
#88
I am sorry man but i have to call bullshit here lol. :watchout:

What happened in that arc is pretty clear man. Let me break it down for you

2180 wasn't that hard for Sanji and he was able to move and fight afterwards
2200 wasn't that hard for Zoro all he needed was a clean cut and he was able to move and fight afterwards

4000 was too much for Luffy that even after a strongest attack in g3 Lucci was still going "even tho that g3 hurt him alot" and Luffy technically lost if it wasn't for Ussop speech. It took everything for Luffy to win that fight and he was rendered useless after that fight.

It does not take a genius to put 2 and 2 together and realize that Zoro and Sanji are above 2200. They were closer to Luffy.

BUT it does not mean that they could have beaten Lucci because who knows how would fare against him. But we know for sure because of Thriller bark that Zoro at least could have lasted longer than Luffy in terms of endurance.

If you will say that oh no G3 luffy could destroy Zoro and Sanji. I would tell you man look at them against Oars lol. Both of them survived few hits of that just like Lucci tanking a G3 from Luffy.
Reread or rewatch the fight. Zoro was set to lose and then ashura was pulled out his ass. This is a fact.

Sanji faced someone with a strength difference of two fodder marines from zoros opponent. He mid diffed at half health.

Zoro was below 2200. Rokushiki is physicals. Which is why kaku physically shit on him.

Sanji was above. Which makes sense. Considering zoro uses a tool and isn't a hand to hand combatant. It also explains why sanji mid diffed at half health.

Zoro was never sanjis equal physically. His sword and skill always balanced it out.

Sanji performed better vs oars.
 
#89
Reread or rewatch the fight. Zoro was set to lose and then ashura was pulled out his ass. This is a fact.

Sanji faced someone with a strength difference of two fodder marines from zoros opponent. He mid diffed at half health.

Zoro was below 2200. Rokushiki is physicals. Which is why kaku physically shit on him.

Sanji was above. Which makes sense. Considering zoro uses a tool and isn't a hand to hand combatant. It also explains why sanji mid diffed at half health.

Zoro was never sanjis equal physically. His sword and skill always balanced it out.

Sanji performed better vs oars.
I have reread the fight few times and i know for a fact that these fight goes this way.

- All 3 of them needed an edge against all 3 members of CP9 > They all got their new PU only two of them folded their opponent except Luffy.

- Zoro was below 2200 Rokushiki Physical? Nah man let me remind you of a Gorilla Arms it overpowered Kaku. Regular Zoro was on equal terms since he was able to clash with Kaku all the time.

- What Zoro lacked was the means to cut Kaku's defenses BUT let me remind you that once Zoro used Lion Song Kaku decided not to block the attack but to counter it instead and mocked Zoro for it saying he chooses what to block as in he won't just let Zoro do whatever he wants. Ashura was the thing that gave Zoro the means to cut throu Kaku's strongest attack and cut throu him at the same time which speaks for itself that Kaku won't be able to contest anymore.

- The same thing goes for Sanji. The only difference is Jabura was blocking using his body that is why he felt Sanji's kicks the opposite of Kaku who blocked most of his attacks using either his body or his swords.

- Since Sanji's speed gave him the edge in hitting Jabura without giving him a chance to dodge he lacked the edge to end him quickly. So if their fight continued Sanji would have won but would have took him time so him finishing the fight with 2 kicks means Sanji is attacks is above that 2180 power.

Now just do the math and compare these 2 to Luffy and you will realize that Luffy had a harder time EVEN with his PU to bring down Lucci.

So what does that say in the end? That Luffy Zoro and Sanji are close but Luffy having the slight edge. But none of them would be able to bring down Lucci like how they did Kaku and Jabura.
 
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