Oda "hyping up" the cake wasnt even bad writing. It was clearly a conscious effort to make Big Mom react the way she did considering she's the wild card of the emperors. Her reactions being not what anyone expected is what made the ending exciting and desperate. After all they done, Big Mom is still in the distance, Jinbe and the Germa's fates are undetermined and the SH's barely get away.
General & Others Misconceptions on Wedding Cake
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it was not that bad.
by helping the antagonist back to her senses it effectively saved the citizens of Totland.
the worst part about Cake plot for me was that it only did what it was meant to do way too late.
Pero misdirecting BM at the SH made the cake plot shit. which was never Sanjis fault. she chased the SHs anyways. for that cake. the cake that did not even exist then.
only after it arrived for real did it do what it was meant for and only briefly so.
I wish it would have made BM stay out of commission long enough for the SHs to make an escape without 3rd party casualties.
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Since WCI is over we can fully analyse the cake plot and see if the plot was truly flawed.
Firstly the reason why the cake was made in the first
Reason the cake was made-
The general consensus was that Chiffon and Pudding wanted to create the cake to save the SHs. One because Pudding wanted to save Sanji. Two because Chiffon wanted to save Lola's saviours.
Ok thats fine and dandy. Now what was the orginal job of the cake. Their is misconception that cake was orginally made to make BM faint and let everyone run for the hills. However they explained that the cake is merely a distraction for BM to allow everyone to escape. They would have been used to lure BM around.
This means that Chiffon was always gonna distract the Big Mom with the cake to allow the SHs to escape.
So where does the fainting come from and what does it mean ?
Big Mom fainting-
Big Mom fainting was not part of the plan Pudding and Chiffon had, it was an extra part added by Sanji.
However the misconception here is that the cake has the power to knock her out. Nobody is understanding that the fainting is only because she enjoys the cake so much. Sanji has no malicious intent, nowhere has it stated that he wants her to be knocked out so they can escape....instead Sanji is expecting her to enjoy so much that she will happen to faint from happiness.
So people need to understand that the way the SHs were meant to escape was with Chiffon and co using the cake to distract Big Mom not with Sanji causing her to faint. The fainting is actually an after effect of just how good the cake.
And everyone denying that she didnt faint....she did.
Aftermath of cake-
Oda also brought it up again that after BM eats the cake her actions will be unknown. Showing that Sanji isnt an idiot and knows that the cake wont actually stop her
However he also states the Firetanks will use it to lure her away from the SHs to allow them to escape. Exactly what Chffon said she would do. I think people need to understand that the cake was only just a distraction and not a weapon to stop BM. It was for the SHs to escape with her chasing after the cake and her being lured away. Not with the cake knocking her out for hours.
Everything that came after being the Fishmen and Vinsmokes getting caught were their own fault. The cake was meant for the escape of the SHs. And it worked. The Vins and Fishmen were also for the escape of the SHs however the cake was never created to protect them....only the SHs. Sanji successded in creating a cake that was good enough to lure Big Mom away with smell alone.
Now here comes the bad writing part. As it wouldnt be One Piece without it.
The unneccesary hype-
Oda hyped up the fainting part even though it was not part of the plan alone nor was it needed at all. We werent even informed how long she'd be knocked out for because for the SHs to escape she wouldnt even need to faint. Her being lured away was good enough. However Oda had to hype it up to make the plot seem interesting to the viewers. And sure enough she did faint, however she mostly got back in minutes.....as again the fainting wasnt part of the plan but just a aftermath of how great the cake is.
Oda overhyped the cake plot and thats why it fell face down. However Sanji as a character accomplished what he needed. Sanji character's needed to create cake good enough to lure BM away, and he did create it. Sanji saying she will faint also did happen, however he never said how long and again it was overhyped by Oda keeping bringing it up.
Conclusion: Was the cake plot good ? Nope it was boring af.
However did it accomplish what it had to ? Yes it did.
Thank you all for reading:cheers:
Firstly the reason why the cake was made in the first
Reason the cake was made-
The general consensus was that Chiffon and Pudding wanted to create the cake to save the SHs. One because Pudding wanted to save Sanji. Two because Chiffon wanted to save Lola's saviours.
Ok thats fine and dandy. Now what was the orginal job of the cake. Their is misconception that cake was orginally made to make BM faint and let everyone run for the hills. However they explained that the cake is merely a distraction for BM to allow everyone to escape. They would have been used to lure BM around.
This means that Chiffon was always gonna distract the Big Mom with the cake to allow the SHs to escape.
So where does the fainting come from and what does it mean ?
Big Mom fainting-
Big Mom fainting was not part of the plan Pudding and Chiffon had, it was an extra part added by Sanji.
However the misconception here is that the cake has the power to knock her out. Nobody is understanding that the fainting is only because she enjoys the cake so much. Sanji has no malicious intent, nowhere has it stated that he wants her to be knocked out so they can escape....instead Sanji is expecting her to enjoy so much that she will happen to faint from happiness.
So people need to understand that the way the SHs were meant to escape was with Chiffon and co using the cake to distract Big Mom not with Sanji causing her to faint. The fainting is actually an after effect of just how good the cake.
And everyone denying that she didnt faint....she did.
Aftermath of cake-
Oda also brought it up again that after BM eats the cake her actions will be unknown. Showing that Sanji isnt an idiot and knows that the cake wont actually stop her
However he also states the Firetanks will use it to lure her away from the SHs to allow them to escape. Exactly what Chffon said she would do. I think people need to understand that the cake was only just a distraction and not a weapon to stop BM. It was for the SHs to escape with her chasing after the cake and her being lured away. Not with the cake knocking her out for hours.
Everything that came after being the Fishmen and Vinsmokes getting caught were their own fault. The cake was meant for the escape of the SHs. And it worked. The Vins and Fishmen were also for the escape of the SHs however the cake was never created to protect them....only the SHs. Sanji successded in creating a cake that was good enough to lure Big Mom away with smell alone.
Now here comes the bad writing part. As it wouldnt be One Piece without it.
The unneccesary hype-
Oda hyped up the fainting part even though it was not part of the plan alone nor was it needed at all. We werent even informed how long she'd be knocked out for because for the SHs to escape she wouldnt even need to faint. Her being lured away was good enough. However Oda had to hype it up to make the plot seem interesting to the viewers. And sure enough she did faint, however she mostly got back in minutes.....as again the fainting wasnt part of the plan but just a aftermath of how great the cake is.
Oda overhyped the cake plot and thats why it fell face down. However Sanji as a character accomplished what he needed. Sanji character's needed to create cake good enough to lure BM away, and he did create it. Sanji saying she will faint also did happen, however he never said how long and again it was overhyped by Oda keeping bringing it up.
Conclusion: Was the cake plot good ? Nope it was boring af.
However did it accomplish what it had to ? Yes it did.
Thank you all for reading:cheers:
The cake plot was a waste of time imo. A good idea to give Sanji some screentime, but other than that it really didn't do much. The most hilarious thing was that some people actually thought that the cake was gonna make big mom weaker so she can be taken down. The only purpose the cake plot achieved was portraying the naivety of the straw hats in thinking a cake can take down a yonko. I didn't like the cake plot in the first place. And just like the straw hats, a lot of the readers fell for the plot too.
Just ya'll wait
So its a good read but I never really thought cake was a plot hole anyways.
I was advocating for Sanji to bake the cake long before it was even established in manga, if you remember my posts from Oro Jackson. If Whole cake Island is truly Sanji's arc, the core of his character is him being a chef and he needs development as a chef.
So good for Sanji, he is a good baker who can bake a cake that satisfies Big Mom's taste buds and maybe deserves Michelin star though Big Mom is far from a food critic.
Not sure how that equates to Sanji getting a high bounty though. Baking is not illegal in world of one piece
I was advocating for Sanji to bake the cake long before it was even established in manga, if you remember my posts from Oro Jackson. If Whole cake Island is truly Sanji's arc, the core of his character is him being a chef and he needs development as a chef.
So good for Sanji, he is a good baker who can bake a cake that satisfies Big Mom's taste buds and maybe deserves Michelin star though Big Mom is far from a food critic.
Not sure how that equates to Sanji getting a high bounty though. Baking is not illegal in world of one piece