General & Others Muh "True Swordsman"
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There are true swordsmen,
whose combat strength relies not only of having a sword in their hands but also having a meito or stronger meito.
Fujitora, Law, etc. I don't consider them true swordsmen.
They are swordsmen though, but aren't limited to swordsmanship in order show their combat strength unlike true swordsmen.
However, "hakimen" is just an excuse for the Shanks vs Mihawk debate. Especially now, when true swordsmen literally need COC to master their swords.
If there's a category of "hakimen",
then true swordsmen are the pinnacle of it.
whose combat strength relies not only of having a sword in their hands but also having a meito or stronger meito.
Fujitora, Law, etc. I don't consider them true swordsmen.
They are swordsmen though, but aren't limited to swordsmanship in order show their combat strength unlike true swordsmen.
However, "hakimen" is just an excuse for the Shanks vs Mihawk debate. Especially now, when true swordsmen literally need COC to master their swords.
If there's a category of "hakimen",
then true swordsmen are the pinnacle of it.
Mihawk ended this debate when he spoke about the Swordsman's Code in his fight against Zoro.
King vs Zoro put the nail in the coffin, for those who still tried to argue that there was no such thing, despite Mihawk mentioning it.
We've pretty much got the whole picture now. When Zoro flashbacked to Kozaburo, Kozaburo made mention that Swords were made for killing.
In Zoro's fight against King, when King attacked with his Sword, and then went for a punch while Zoro was unguarded, Zoro said he was just "A Killing Machine.", to which King answered you don't need a school or style in order to fight. Zoro responded with nope, good point, and you never called yourself a Swordsman.
Someone who uses a Sword only to kill, and doesn't use any kind of style or follows the Swordsman's code, is not a Swordsman.
King vs Zoro put the nail in the coffin, for those who still tried to argue that there was no such thing, despite Mihawk mentioning it.
We've pretty much got the whole picture now. When Zoro flashbacked to Kozaburo, Kozaburo made mention that Swords were made for killing.
In Zoro's fight against King, when King attacked with his Sword, and then went for a punch while Zoro was unguarded, Zoro said he was just "A Killing Machine.", to which King answered you don't need a school or style in order to fight. Zoro responded with nope, good point, and you never called yourself a Swordsman.
Someone who uses a Sword only to kill, and doesn't use any kind of style or follows the Swordsman's code, is not a Swordsman.
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Law and Fujitora are not coating their swords with their DF(only Law awakening is doing it). They are using DF abilities not only swordsman abilities.
No one ever told Hybrid or Zoan forms are stronger than human forms. So far Kaido's best perfomance was at his Human form.
People who try to sell Hakiman are stupid, but people who says if you use DF than you are not swordsman has a point.
No one ever told Hybrid or Zoan forms are stronger than human forms. So far Kaido's best perfomance was at his Human form.
People who try to sell Hakiman are stupid, but people who says if you use DF than you are not swordsman has a point.
despite Oda blatantly contradicting this
Yeah, Fuji is also coating his sword with gravity. Hence the attack is called "gravity blade". We literally see black lightning around his sword(indicative of his DF) before he uses that horizontal gravity attack.
King's best performance is in hybrid and zoan form. tempura udon has insane DC, same with king's hybrid form air slashes.
Yeah, Fuji is also coating his sword with gravity. Hence the attack is called "gravity blade". We literally see black lightning around his sword(indicative of his DF) before he uses that horizontal gravity attack.
King's best performance is in hybrid and zoan form. tempura udon has insane DC, same with king's hybrid form air slashes.
"hakiman" sounds stupid as hell.
there's armed combat vs unarmed combat.
haki/devil fruits only compliments both types of combat.
swordsmanship is the most difficult fighting style, especially with the recent developments about cursed/famed swords.
so it's safe to say that everyone that wields a famed sword is a swordsman, because only swordsmen can master them.
there's armed combat vs unarmed combat.
haki/devil fruits only compliments both types of combat.
swordsmanship is the most difficult fighting style, especially with the recent developments about cursed/famed swords.
so it's safe to say that everyone that wields a famed sword is a swordsman, because only swordsmen can master them.
"hakiman" sounds stupid as hell.
there's armed combat vs unarmed combat.
haki/devil fruits only compliments both types of combat.
swordsmanship is the most difficult fighting style, especially with the recent developments about cursed/famed swords.
so it's safe to say that everyone that wields a famed sword is a swordsman, because only swordsmen can master them.
there's armed combat vs unarmed combat.
haki/devil fruits only compliments both types of combat.
swordsmanship is the most difficult fighting style, especially with the recent developments about cursed/famed swords.
so it's safe to say that everyone that wields a famed sword is a swordsman, because only swordsmen can master them.
All this about the pure swordsmen is because of people that can't accept that mihawk is something more.... A lot more...
The best part with this is that when oda show us the legendary duels between mihawk and Shanks the clashes that WB was talking about, they would be adv. CoC classes and all those discussions will go to the garbage..
All the swordsmen can kick, punch, use the environment or their df and that's it..
The best part with this is that when oda show us the legendary duels between mihawk and Shanks the clashes that WB was talking about, they would be adv. CoC classes and all those discussions will go to the garbage..
All the swordsmen can kick, punch, use the environment or their df and that's it..
Hakiman is obviously bs and should have been thought as such ever since the Pica fight. Haki is just a buff to your existing fighting style.
Devil fruits also doesn’t necessarily exclude you from being a swordsman. Kaku for example is still a swordsman after eating a df (granted regular zoan is basically the most “normal” of dfs). However, I think there is a difference between characters that create swords using their df abilities ala Big Mom and characters that channel df abilities through their swords like Law/Fujitora.
The former I wouldn’t consider to be a swordsman while the latter is more ambiguous but Oda seems to classify them as swordsmans based on supplementary information at the very least.
Devil fruits also doesn’t necessarily exclude you from being a swordsman. Kaku for example is still a swordsman after eating a df (granted regular zoan is basically the most “normal” of dfs). However, I think there is a difference between characters that create swords using their df abilities ala Big Mom and characters that channel df abilities through their swords like Law/Fujitora.
The former I wouldn’t consider to be a swordsman while the latter is more ambiguous but Oda seems to classify them as swordsmans based on supplementary information at the very least.