Powers & Abilities New Goalpost for Zoro?

[Blazing Lion]

So what is the new goalpost to accept that Zoro is true top tier. Last time it was that he cant use CoC on demand, his usage is bad, he cant keep it up for long duration, he will run out of stamina and die of exhaustion, he gets CoC from Enma etc. All retarded stupid shit was being thrown.

Now he has once again shown ACoC usage without KoH mode (funny how the flames are absent) and without any sign of exhaustion (it was already clear in EH). So what is the new goalpost.

So in which metric does Zoro not live up to top tier status?
CoC - Body is at ease with it even leaking profusely, can control and use without any exhaustion
CoA - Best offense (Asura - DMG) and defense CoA (Hakai block) feat in manga
CoO - Sleep diff (only shown by WB), probably least tagged fighter in 1v1 post TS
Strength - Not even needed, his physicals in pre TS were already pretty high
Speed - Blitz Kaido and BM at RT, negged Lucci
Mobility - Dodge lightspeed paw canon, blitz and hit flying opponent, negged the giant army and dodged Dorry and Broggy attack
Endurance - Greater than max dura/endurance Kuma even at pre TS
Durability - Base is same as other humans though with passive CoC it could be higher now

@nik87 @mly90 @Shimotsuki Fenaker @HA001 @Cruxroux

 

[Bad English]

Zoro vs top tier when?

 

[Juanpiz]

Zoro vs top tier when?

One of the First arcs(mihawk)

 

[Cruxroux]

Zoro vs top tier when?

Zoro was the first Character to fight a top tier in chapter 50 lol.

 

[Bad English]

One of the First arcs(mihawk)

No diff

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Zoro was the first Character to fight a top tier in chapter 50 lol.

You know what I'm talking about, "fight" lol

 

[Cruxroux]

No diff

Post automatically merged: Yesterday at 7:56 PM

You know what I'm talking about, "fight" lol

Naah you're just here to troll.
Not even addressing the post to begin with.

Title clearly says what is the next goal post.

 

[Bad English]

Naah you're just here to troll.
Not even addressing the post to begin with.

Title clearly says what is the next goal post.

So defeating top tier is not goal post?

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Or at least decent fight against top tier

 

[JackieDaytona3019]

You’re putting too much thought and effort into this. It’s obvious that there is a toxic part of the fandom that loves to pit Zoro against Sanji, and neither side is willing to let facts, logic, or new developments change their predetermined narrative.
Theres literally no point in trying to have an adult civil conversation with either side, as both sides immediately devolve into immature insults as you don’t agree with their unalterable viewpoint.

That being said Zoro has always been shown to be standing shoulder to shoulder with Luffy, so he is whatever tier that Luffy is.

 

[Bad English]

I understand I'm asking too much, we barely have top tier fights in manga

 

[Cruxroux]

So defeating top tier is not goal post?

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Or at least decent fight against top tier

Show me anyone in Zoro tier who has feats against Top tiers like Zoro has.

 

[Bad English]

Show me anyone in Zoro tier who has feats against Top tiers like Zoro has.

Those are squirmishes, i meant real big fights like Luffy vs Kaido, Luffy vs Kizaru etc. Do you think Zoro will fight other top tiers or Mihawk only?

 

[Cruxroux]

Those are squirmishes, i meant real big fights like Luffy vs Kaido, Luffy vs Kizaru etc. Do you think Zoro will fight other top tiers or Mihawk only?

Luffy vs Kizaru is legit nothing more than a squirmish rather than a full blown battle.

Luffy vs Kaidou is another story entirely, give zoro 3 lives and even he will beat any top tier, without any outside help.

And again you didn't answer the question, who in Zoro tier has feats like Zoro.

 

[nik87]

doesnt matter, they will never be able to accept Zoro as a top tier.
He was a top tier the whole post-TS and they werent able to tell.

 

[Bad English]

Luffy vs Kizaru is legit nothing more than a squirmish rather than a full blown battle.

Luffy vs Kaidou is another story entirely, give zoro 3 lives and even he will beat any top tier, without any outside help.

And again you didn't answer the question, who in Zoro tier has feats like Zoro.

Luffy vs Kaido and Kizaru are way better powerscaling wise than any fight Zoro got.
Assuming Zoro's best feats are defeating yc1 and dealing damage to top tiers, i would say Yamato. She didn't defeated yc1 yet but i believe she could too.

 

[ZenZu]

Zoro will be a top tier when Oda is comfortable with having him fight one.

The same thing happened when most people thought Zoro would be too strong for a YC1 after the rooftop and then proceeded to get bodied by one. Never forget it was Zoro fans shitting on King for an entire year thinking that YC1 were beneath Zoro.

Isolated aura farming is cool, stat sheets are cool, but going up 1v1 against one is an entirely different ballgame.

 

[Cruxroux]

Luffy vs Kaido and Kizaru are way better powerscaling wise than any fight Zoro got.

Really Luffy vs Kizaru was one hit in and kizaru held back.
Even Zoro vs Kaidou was better than that, zoro actually achieved something.

Assuming Zoro's best feats are defeating yc1 and dealing damage to top tiers

Yes a YC1, who is way above average YC1.
His defense/durablity surpassed kaidou himself.
Zoro was Damaging that.

dealing damage to top tiers, i would say Yamato.

So you're telling me Zoro has top tier feats but not a top tier?
Yamato never surpassed Zoro Ashura mark, let alone KoH version of Zoro.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Zoro's first top tier fight will be against venus. I think post elbaph he would be low top tier if he gets any significant powerup.

The issue is shiryu. Unless shiryu is buffed up , I don't see how he becomes a top tier fight for zoro.

 

[Cruxroux]

Zoro's first top tier fight will be against venus. I think post elbaph he would be low top tier if he gets any significant powerup.

The issue is shiryu. Unless shiryu is buffed up , I don't see how he becomes a top tier fight for zoro.

Analogy for Shiryu to be just yc1 type is dumb.
Zoro already crossed the YC1 benchmark and himself is around inbetweener or low top tier.

If the opponent is weaker than zoro, in a major fight arc. What's the fuckin point of the fight then?

 

[soupongo]

Really just in verse respect, and a prolonged arc fight against a top tier,though I assume we´re pretty close to that point in the story

 

[nik87]

Zoro will be a top tier when Oda is comfortable with having him fight one.

The same thing happened when most people thought Zoro would be too strong for a YC1 after the rooftop and then proceeded to get bodied by one. Never forget it was Zoro fans shitting on King for an entire year thinking that YC1 were beneath Zoro.

Isolated aura farming is cool, stat sheets are cool, but going up 1v1 against one is an entirely different ballgame.

Funny thing is Zoro reached 2 Emperors and fought them better than anyone else while people thought he never fought a Yonko commander tier because the last guy he fought was Pica and then it turned out that Pica was above most people in YC tier.
Same thing with top tiers, people claim the same as you without realising Zoro's top tier fight is already behind him. King is stronger than any Admiral and this will be revealed in WG war when King returns to aid Nika and claps Aramaki.