Chapter Discussion Next chapter will show if Imu will be the Final Villain, or he will be defeated by BB

[Konstantis]

Jokes aside, it's happening. IMU is nerfed, like BM was nerfed. But he can nerf to explain the reason why SH will survive in Elbaf. But if he is another immortality clown, who will take a lot of damage and do nothing, I will say that BB is the Final Villain. On the other hand, Luffy always lose first fight against a formidable enemy:

1. Crocodile vs Luffy ended with Luffy's "death";
2. Rob Lucci vs Luffy ended with Luffy flying to the sea, so again death.
3. Kaido vs Luffy ended with one shot.

On the other hand, we have:

1. Luffy vs Enel - ended with Enel running away;
2. Luffy vs Moria - ended with Moria running away;
3. Luffy vs Doffy - Doffy used distraction, so you can say he avoided this battle, so again, running away.

So, how Luffy vs Imu round 1 will end?

 

[SkySanji]

Imu will stomp everyone and when he's on the verge of killing them he'll be forced to return to Mariejois for some reason.

 

[eamonpro]

I wouldn't be so sure that blackbeard can only win against a jobber

 

[soupongo]

probably true, but we should probably give Imu a couple chapters. I imagine Oda will do a couple of chapters of awkward stalling.

Still, if Imu doesn't come off as incredibly powerful here, it would just be incoherent.

 

[BlackLegFring]

Blackbeard being bloodied by Law despite having help from his Commanders already determined that if you’re going by showings.

 

[Salah WG]

Don't compare Imu's Arrival to those Villains,
He appeared Solo immediately after SHs & Allies were Celebrating their Victory, (Against Sommers + Killingham + Gunko)
Which means He should be similar to One of these:

1. Kuzan showing up after Foxy Games (Foxy + Hamburg + Porche)
2. Kuma showing up after Thriller Bark Nightmare (Moria + Absalom + Perona)
3. Kizaru showing up after Auction House Incident (Three Celestial Dragons)

None of these were Final Villains, They only appeared to give entire SH Crew a "Reality Check",
What's common here:

1. Entire Crew were Overwhelmed & had no way of harming their Opponent
2. Enemy threatened to Kill a SH (Kuzan with Robin, Kuma with Luffy & Kizaru with Zoro)
3. Enemy eventually decided to spare Luffy for different reasons
4. There is a Legendary Old Man behind such Enemy
(Kizaru was sent by Sengoku, Kuma mentioned He was modified by Vegapunk, and Kuzan teased his Mentor Garp)

 

[Kair0s1]

 

[Juanpiz]

Dont you Like to party

 

[eamonpro]

3 fruits idk, if he ate all of his crew and their fruits at once though he could def overtake imu

 

[SkySanji]

Low diff Shanks but couldn't low diff Law while backed by half his crew

 

[Blazing Lion]

Don't compare Imu's Arrival to those Villains,
He appeared Solo immediately after SHs & Allies were Celebrating their Victory, (Against Sommers + Killingham + Gunko)
Which means He should be similar to One of these:

1. Kuzan showing up after Foxy Games (Foxy + Hamburg + Porche)
2. Kuma showing up after Thriller Bark Nightmare (Moria + Absalom + Perona)
3. Kizaru showing up after Auction House Incident (Three Celestial Dragons)

None of these were Final Villains, They only appeared to give entire SH Crew a "Reality Check",
What's common here:

1. Entire Crew were Overwhelmed & had no way of harming their Opponent
2. Enemy threatened to Kill a SH (Kuzan with Robin, Kuma with Luffy & Kizaru with Zoro)
3. Enemy eventually decided to spare Luffy for different reasons
4. There is a Legendary Old Man behind such Enemy
(Kizaru was sent by Sengoku, Kuma mentioned He was modified by Vegapunk, and Kuzan teased his Mentor Garp)

So you think the SHPs are going to get overwhelmed?
The SHPs only had a very strong ally in the form of Ray in Sabaody, the other two times they had no super strong ally.

 

[Salah WG]

So you think the SHPs are going to get overwhelmed?
The SHPs only had a very strong ally in the form of Ray in Sabaody, the other two times they had no super strong ally.

I won't claim that I'm sure about this, but I made similar Prediction 3 years ago,

Luffy always gets a Reality Check

Strongest in East Blue? Smoker says Hi
Baroque Works Agents & Wapol were Weak? Mr. 0 says Hi
Didn't lose Skypiea Battle Royale & Davy Back Fight? Aokiji says Hi
Water 7 Shipwrights aren't that Strong? Lucci says Hi
Survived Thriller Bark Nightmare? Kuma says Hi
And then it continued with Magellan & then Admiral Trio & then Yonko Commanders & then Big Mom & then Kaidou

When Wano started, and i saw Luffy bullying Fodders & then Ushimaru & Hold'em & showing off his Future Sight ... etc
I knew someone gonna come clap him, and that's exactly what Kaidou did

Now in Egghead, He disrespected Lucci & his Gear 5 is talk of everyone
Someone is gonna arrive & humiliate him in front of every single Faction
Basically Madara or Aizen of Story

I thought such Villain would appear at End of Egghead, but instead We got Joy Boy Hype, while WG Conflict got extended to Elbaph Arc,
Now, We finally got that Intro I was waiting for, so there is a good chance Oda might indeed teach Luffy a lesson,

My problem however is this: "If Red-Hair Pirates were there instead of SHs, would They lose such Battle?", most people would say Yes, but is Oda really putting SHs in a Situation that even Red-Hair Pirates can't handle and yet They didn't meet as promised?

I thought such Villain would appear in Egghead & Oda gonna bring all Factions there to witness him, but Imu being witnessed by only SHs & some Giants feels weird, it's possible that Oda is tricking everyone & Imu might not actually fight at all, He would make some deal or declaration or trigger something instead.

 

[Konstantis]

Don't compare Imu's Arrival to those Villains,
He appeared Solo immediately after SHs & Allies were Celebrating their Victory, (Against Sommers + Killingham + Gunko)
Which means He should be similar to One of these:

1. Kuzan showing up after Foxy Games (Foxy + Hamburg + Porche)
2. Kuma showing up after Thriller Bark Nightmare (Moria + Absalom + Perona)
3. Kizaru showing up after Auction House Incident (Three Celestial Dragons)

None of these were Final Villains, They only appeared to give entire SH Crew a "Reality Check",
What's common here:

1. Entire Crew were Overwhelmed & had no way of harming their Opponent
2. Enemy threatened to Kill a SH (Kuzan with Robin, Kuma with Luffy & Kizaru with Zoro)
3. Enemy eventually decided to spare Luffy for different reasons
4. There is a Legendary Old Man behind such Enemy
(Kizaru was sent by Sengoku, Kuma mentioned He was modified by Vegapunk, and Kuzan teased his Mentor Garp)

Well, there is a problem in your logic. This is a fair point, but we are so far in the story that the villain who can overwhelm the MC crew shouldn't exist. Why? Because there will be no timeskip. So if some villain has this overwhelming power, this means he will be defeated by the MC in the future. In another case, readers wouldn't be able to say that MC was able to break through any of his obstacles. For example, Luffy didn't defeat Big Mom, but it was obvious that she was weaker than Kaido. On the other hand, Imu, the King of the World, is the only man who has a title like this. If someone like Teach will defeat him in a weakened state, this wouldn't mean that Luffy was able to defeat Imu, or that Teach was able to defeat Imu fair and square.

Now what does this mean? If Imu is not an FV, he will struggle in the battle against Luffy and Loki, wouldn't be able to do much, and then he will be absorbed by BB. In Naruto, when Madara was fighting against buffed Naruto and Sasuke, we saw how we started to struggle against them in battle. And then Kaguya appeared and took the spot of the Final Villain. But no one was saying that Madara is stronger than Kaguya.

If Imu is the Final Villain, his power will be overwhelmed, and he will destroy Luffy and Loki. So even if he is weakened after battle, because he basically risked his life and was absorbed by BB, you will still be able to say that after BB's death, he will be revived and play the role of the Final Villain. Also, BB could just lose to Imu and never be able to absorb him.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Jokes aside, it's happening. IMU is nerfed, like BM was nerfed. But he can nerf to explain the reason why SH will survive in Elbaf. But if he is another immortality clown, who will take a lot of damage and do nothing, I will say that BB is the Final Villain. On the other hand, Luffy always lose first fight against a formidable enemy:

1. Crocodile vs Luffy ended with Luffy's "death";
2. Rob Lucci vs Luffy ended with Luffy flying to the sea, so again death.
3. Kaido vs Luffy ended with one shot.

On the other hand, we have:

1. Luffy vs Enel - ended with Enel running away;
2. Luffy vs Moria - ended with Moria running away;
3. Luffy vs Doffy - Doffy used distraction, so you can say he avoided this battle, so again, running away.

So, how Luffy vs Imu round 1 will end?

Akainu is final villain. Stop bugging.

 

[Konstantis]

Akainu is the final villain. Stop bugging.

Dude, Akainu was my favorite character. But you can understand when the author make reader understand that Akainu is irrelevant as a villain.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Dude, Akainu was my favorite character. But you can understand when the author make reader understand that Akainu is irrelevant as a villain.

Akainu recently beat up Kuma’s face.

 

[Chiji_]

He might have something harming him but he’s still immortal and with that kind of haki I doubt anyone here is doing anything of significance let alone beating him to the point where BB can finish him off. Its more like theres a concern of how long he’s allowed to be here before he needs to go so he doesn’t kill the main cast.

 

[Konstantis]

Akainu recently beat up Kuma’s face.

This is not enough. He didn't kill him. Author knows what he is doing, so Akainu missed for that reason only
But again, if Imu will be FV, he will buff Akainu for final war, so Akainu will be one of the final villains.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

This is not enough. He didn't kill him. Author knows what he is doing, so Akainu missed for that reason only
But again, if Imu will be FV, he will buff Akainu for final war, so Akainu will be one of the final villains.

Nope. Imu will die this arc.

 

[Konstantis]

Nope. Imu will die this arc.

This could be the case if IMU goes with this scenario:

Now what does this mean? If Imu is not an FV, he will struggle in the battle against Luffy and Loki, wouldn't be able to do much, and then he will be absorbed by BB. In Naruto, when Madara was fighting against buffed Naruto and Sasuke, we saw how we started to struggle against them in battle. And then Kaguya appeared and took the spot of the Final Villain. But no one was saying that Madara is stronger than Kaguya.

But if we see opposite, Imu is 1000% the Final Villain. Even if BB absorbs him, he will still be the FV. And I'm not even talking about Vivis plot, which should be solved.