Role Madness NieR: Automata Mafia Game Thread [Game State: Game End - Indie Victory]

Yo Tan Wa

Yo Tan Wa

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#3,250
Flower said:
…I‘m the Duelist who challenged Gad.
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The claims are totally diff then, the way Orca phrased it i thought you had a similar claim or something.

Also, if you are sussin me why not engage me directly? and
How is my post letting Ultra know i will claim if he ask again i.e if he really needs my claim( since town/him not focusing on me rn), is not a meaningful post? Or Askin for update/summary.

What else I'm supposed to do? Tell me.​
 
York

York

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#3,251
I am adamantly against this. No reason for us to not hold off on lynching Pot until tomorrow at least. Throwing away potential info for no reason, to off an ability that poses no real threat to us if it does turn out to be scum
 
Ultra

Ultra

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#3,252
Crying bc no Cryo said:
im dumb can u explain how he outted?
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Basically if you're a townie with the ability to see a mafia's tracking and watching history simultaneously, you might as well well have their IP address and social security number. In practice, it might not always give you a full solve, but there's a very real chance that it could. There's basically no counterplay either - let's say you're a team mate and you protected said person 3 nights ago. You're fucked. Depending on what said mafia flips, you can see and clear every person they have ever targeted either maliciously or have tried to benefit, and it's really not too hard to piece that together with claims. Oh, and Pot claims this is tied to an execution, so said mafia can die at half votes required normally.

This makes no sense for a town role. Technically he's not always guaranteed to hit scum but if he does it breaks the game wide open. Much more likely he's scum/indi and using it as a bargaining chip. When you're informed, this isn't really that game breaking of an ability. You are punished by lack of info if you use it quickly, and if you use it late you'll get a lot of info but by that point in the game you will have gotten a lot of claims anyway
 
Flower

Flower

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Yo Tan Wa said:
The claims are totally diff then, the way Orca phrased it i thought you had a similar claim or something.

Also, if you are sussin me why not engage me directly? and
How is my post letting Ultra know i will claim if he ask again i.e if he really needs my claim( since town/him not focusing on me rn), is not a meaningful post? Or Askin for update/summary.

What else I'm supposed to do? Tell me.​
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…because those posts might as well just be posted to increase your post count.

You could give your reads or thoughts and question people instead of doing this.
 
Crying bc no Cryo

Crying bc no Cryo

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Ultra said:
Basically if you're a townie with the ability to see a mafia's tracking and watching history simultaneously, you might as well well have their IP address and social security number. In practice, it might not always give you a full solve, but there's a very real chance that it could. There's basically no counterplay either - let's say you're a team mate and you protected said person 3 nights ago. You're fucked. Depending on what said mafia flips, you can see and clear every person they have ever targeted either maliciously or have tried to benefit, and it's really not too hard to piece that together with claims. Oh, and Pot claims this is tied to an execution, so said mafia can die at half votes required normally.

This makes no sense for a town role. Technically he's not always guaranteed to hit scum but if he does it breaks the game wide open. Much more likely he's scum/indi and using it as a bargaining chip. When you're informed, this isn't really that game breaking of an ability. You are punished by lack of info if you use it quickly, and if you use it late you'll get a lot of info but by that point in the game you will have gotten a lot of claims anyway
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...wait what? it watches and tracks all previous nights too?? that's p borken yeah

BUT

if he's scum then he's probably claiming his fake role right? are the fakeclaims we know of (eve PB lemon) this broken? and if so that prob means we just keep voting off the ppl with the most borken roles
 
Ultra

Ultra

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It's also apples and oranges. Fuji came to a conclusion despite the overwhelming evidence because of his blind faith that such an event wouldn't happen.

The evidence points towards this being asl scum ability. The utility as one makes far more sense, and as Orca pointed out, you have the competing dynamic with Flower's claim. Pot hasn't offered anything else to clear his name
 
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