Break Week Nika is a goddamn plothole

[Black]

Ever since luffy ate the hito hito no mi he was shown to be paramecia. All zoan fruits have something in common. Every zoan directly transforms into either animals or hybrid animals.

luffys fruit being a zoan makes no sense since he only was able to stretch his bodyparts. He should have been able to transform right away.

His awakening being a transformation is lackluster and goes against the rules of zoan fruits. Oda is such an L swallower its sickening. 😢

 

[zhenon]

Every zoan directly transforms into either animals or hybrid animals.

Sengoku exists

I do agree that Gomu aCtuAlly being a mythical zoan all along was dumb though

 

[Admiral Mou Bu]

Oda is a walking L. Man needs to retire and let someone else with proper story writing like Hara finish the series.
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Sengoku exists

Its not like Sengoku had Paramecia powers all the time and then Oda ass pulled him a Zoan form... Sengoku's "animal" is a Buddha.

 

[Herrera95]

Yes. Exactly that.

 

[Black]

Sengoku exists

I do agree that Gomu aCtuAlly being a mythical zoan all along was dumb though

Sengoku transforms into a golden buddha. That still is a transformation. Luffy didn’t until his awakening which is badly written. Its like an excuse to retcon the gomu gomu no mi

 

[wys]

his human rubber-body should be his hybrid form, but the question is "does luffy have a human form?" If that was the case, how could he not have found that even though he had been using his Devil Fruit nonstop for 12 years?

 

[zhenon]

Oda is a walking L. Man needs to retire and let someone else with proper story writing like Hara finish the series.
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Its not like Sengoku had Paramecia powers all the time and then Oda ass pulled him a Zoan form... Sengoku's "animal" is a Buddha.

Sengoku transforms into a golden buddha. That still is a transformation. Luffy didn’t until his awakening which is badly written. Its like an excuse to retcon the gomu gomu no mi

reread the full sentence i quoted then reply again

I never said its not a transformation

 

[Konstantis]

No

 

[DarkKingSlander]

Someone on here recently made a thread that kinda reminds me of this one.

"What does a zoan do for your base" or something like that.

For example, lucci has his transformations, but does his leopard fruit give his base human form any physical attributes?

Or more closely to luffy, marco may not need to be in his Phoenix form in order to have access to his blue Phoenix flames. Maybe stronger can jump high with his Pegasus fruit.

Maybe sengoku can Buddha palm in base. Maybe he could have confused his Buddha fruit with a shockwave fruit if he never figured out how to transform.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Someone on here recently made a thread that kinda reminds me of this one.

"What does a zoan do for your base" or something like that.

For example, lucci has his transformations, but does his leopard fruit give his base human form any physical attributes?

Or more closely to luffy, marco may not need to be in his Phoenix form in order to have access to his blue Phoenix flames. Maybe stronger can jump high with his Pegasus fruit.

Maybe sengoku can Buddha palm in base. Maybe he could have confused his Buddha fruit with a shockwave fruit if he never figured out how to transform.

If i remember correctly, Lucci's fruit or zoan in general were said to make you more ferocious.

 

[Deleted member 65730]

Luffy's devil fruit is beyond broken at this point. Luffy was already a pseudo paramecia/logia hybrid because unlike other
paramecia he didn't have to activate his powers.

The change to make it a mythical zoan was unnecessary. Such a shame we'll never see the old Luffy again.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Agreed.

 

[RYNO]

unlike other
paramecia he didn't have to activate his powers

Both Buggy and Alvida don't need to activate their powers, there also very good and vegapunk who arent fully confirmed but it's seems they don't need activate their powers either.
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Luffy's devil fruit is beyond broken at this point. Luffy was already a pseudo paramecia/logia hybrid because unlike other
paramecia he didn't have to activate his powers.

The change to make it a mythical zoan was unnecessary. Such a shame we'll never see the old Luffy again.

And logias powers are activated by their users its the character have high mastery of their powers can activate it by reflexively.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Oda is a walking L. Man needs to retire and let someone else with proper story writing like Hara finish the series.

You want Kingdom Piece 🤣🤣

 

[Deleted member 65730]

And logias powers are activated by their users its the character have high mastery of their powers can activate it by reflexively.

Is that confirmed to be true? I've always seen it as they literally can't be touched unless you use haki or an opposing element to actually
turn their body back to normal. From what I've seen, every Logia, even without observation haki doesn't have to do anything if they
are struck by an attack without haki.

The only person I've seen who doesn't do this is Katakuri, who is "copying" the logia fruits using his observation haki to make up
for it.

:zorothink:

 

[RYNO]

Is that confirmed to be true? I've always seen it as they literally can't be touched unless you use haki or an opposing element to actually
turn their body back to normal. From what I've seen, every Logia, even without observation haki doesn't have to do anything if they
are struck by an attack without haki.

The only person I've seen who doesn't do this is Katakuri, who is "copying" the logia fruits using his observation haki to make up
for it.

:zorothink:

Smoker back in Alabasta was hit by luffy when he talking to ace and Katakuri has the same abilities of logias his whole thing is was able to dodge luffys coa coated attacks with future site.

 

[Fn Lucci]

It's built on the premise that Luffy didn't believe he was a Zoan and therefore didn't use Zoan powers. But that's dumb because it suggests that everyone who eats a fruit knows what it is and how to trigger it, and that Luffy's somehow an exception because he didn't because of what he was told. Like someone could have defeated a young Kaido by convincing him that he ate the Dry Cock no Mi.

And now... what's his Zoan form? How can it be any Gear if those forms, unlike any other Zoan, are physically taxing?

 

[NAMELESS]

If i remember correctly, Lucci's fruit or zoan in general were said to make you more ferocious.

Carnivore Zoans have that trait.Luffy sun god make him more goofy i suppose.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Spoiler

This hint itself, like the throwaway conversation with Momo around the same time, is great.

But THEN you realize he'd been planning this absolutely forever and had no clue how to pull it off without cheating the readers. Rubber sound effects, immunity to electric, and no fire? Obviously he didn't wanna call Nika a rubber god, but he made it so specifically a Gomu fruit that it can't really be reversed. Especially because he went on to show that somehow, a chunk of endgame antagonists knew this all along and just let him grind and level up in peace anyway.