Questions & Mysteries No way Roger and Garp defeated the Rocks pirates

#22
I think it was Garp and Roger vs Xebec.
Maybe WB fought another Rocks member, not because he betrayed Xebec but maybe one of the Rocks member or some of them had a grudge against WB and take the chaos as an opportunity to settle a score against him?
And yea there were Rayleigh, Gaban, Rogers Crew and we can see some marines as well.
 
#26
Average reader: Roger and Garp too strong!! Wow they really lvl's above anyone!! They beaten the rocks pirates!! The GoAT

Reality and in depth reading : Roger crew teaming with Garp + Marines to take down his rival with most of the big shots on the rocks members aren't even close to their prime + always fighting among each other and can't fight cooperatively........

Every one can tell about Roger, he is just Luffy version of old era, he has the luck, plot armor, destiny driven etc.
 
#27
There something missing in story. May be one/some of the rocks pirates turned on xebec. Or they had another powerful fighter protecting the world nobles.

White beard could go one on one with roger alone. Big mom or kaida could probably take on garp. Then you have the captain himself xebec!!! So how could those two alone defeat rocks pirates!!! Rocks pirate had strong haki plus powerful DF power users!! Didn't include shiki!!

So what do you guys suppose happened?
Based on facts and evidence, you are correct they Roger and Garp didnt have enough manpower
Specially considering how weak/struggling Garp looked against 550M Chinjao 30 years ago
The pirates mentioned in Rocks werent prime but the same goes for RP and Garp, each on of those pirates could hold themselves against RP and Garp
WB and Roger are Obvious
Shiki did a 2v1 against Garp and Sengoku, destroying half Marineford
BM was natural disaster from beginning and had DF, and was over 30 and Streuen (the old guy, was always with her)
Kaido around 20 should've been at least around. YC 1-2, or scopper :kriwhat:
 
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Cruxroux

#28
It was probably an group effort like Kaido vs Entire Alliance , But only Roger and Garp got the credit.
Rocks might have fought everyone at once.
 
#29
WB is younger than both roger/garp, he could've been weaker at the time and not at his prime.


Meme was probably yc1+, and kaido somewhere in the commander range.

Plus their teamwork sucked, so a couple of them probably fled (kaido, shiki etc) when things starting going south.

So its actually not that far fetched to think roger + garp + roger pirates (prime ray, scopper) could win.
 
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Cruxroux

#30
WB is younger than both roger/garp, he could've been weaker at the time and not at his prime.


Meme was probably yc1+, and kaido somewhere in the commander range.

Plus their teamwork sucked, so a couple of them probably fled (kaido, shiki etc) when things starting going south.

So its actually not that far fetched to think roger + garp + roger pirates (prime ray, scopper) could win.
Was Roger and garp at their prime?
Don't think so.
 
#32
There has almost definitely been a betrayal of some kind in Rocks

And while Garp and Roger were the main figures, Rayleigh would have been there as well for certain. Scopper will have a decent enough level of strength. And the Marines could have had Sengoku, some Admirals, Kong.

Plus Kaido was a teenager
 
#33
Whitebeard is all about protecting his family, while Rocks specially doesn’t seem to care much about this and was willing to endanger everyone to goto God Valley. Whitbeard turning on Rocks once he realizes this is likely.
 
#34
There something missing in story. May be one/some of the rocks pirates turned on xebec. Or they had another powerful fighter protecting the world nobles.

White beard could go one on one with roger alone. Big mom or kaida could probably take on garp. Then you have the captain himself xebec!!! So how could those two alone defeat rocks pirates!!! Rocks pirate had strong haki plus powerful DF power users!! Didn't include shiki!!

So what do you guys suppose happened?
If Whitebeard could take on Roger then Kaido could take on Garp and probably win.
 
#36
There something missing in story. May be one/some of the rocks pirates turned on xebec. Or they had another powerful fighter protecting the world nobles.

White beard could go one on one with roger alone. Big mom or kaida could probably take on garp. Then you have the captain himself xebec!!! So how could those two alone defeat rocks pirates!!! Rocks pirate had strong haki plus powerful DF power users!! Didn't include shiki!!

So what do you guys suppose happened?
Roger and Garp blitzed and one shot everyone
 
#37
I dont remember if everyone of Rocks crew was there but if every big figure was there we have:

Xebec,WB, Meme, not prime Kaido vs Garp/Roger/Ray.

Maybe WB left or he changed sides and help Roger but even if this isnt the case its not that hard that they defeated them.
 
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