Character Discussion Not prime Sukuna without techniques vs Gojo with infinity
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1 And so, there are 20 fingers, each of which carries a piece of Sukuna's soul and power. There is the head of sukuna's old body, which is equal to 1 finger in terms of the amount of cursed energy. Obviously, by eating a finger with a particle of soul and cursed energy, sukuna will become stronger. Only the Lod/Jo Phages deny this. 2 Reread Gege's answers to the fans' questions. Gege said that gojo's teleports need special conditions, he can't use them all the time. So it's acceptable in this regard >>Lol/jo. 3 It is enough for Sukune to win the battle of domains by overheating the Logjo's brain and closing the domain with a barrier or in a true form using 150% fire arrow + permanent cuts from the tomb and thus destroy the logjo after the first victory in the battle of domains while the logjo is without the cursed technique. You can argue with your boy. But in the 5-page manga, lojo clearly said 3 times that Sukuna is stronger and that he is holding back. And that lojo is likely to lose even without 10 shadows to megekune.
I remind you that this half-dead son of a bitch vanshot logjo, who did not even force him to turn on his true form.
Lol. In true form+enhancement, Lojo will die inside the domain, even the strongest hand-to-hand fighter Kashimo was beaten. Kashimo with the Cursed technique >> Gojo in close combat. Lojo can't even dodge a slash.
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I remind you that this half-dead son of a bitch vanshot logjo, who did not even force him to turn on his true form.
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Lol. In true form+enhancement, Lojo will die inside the domain, even the strongest hand-to-hand fighter Kashimo was beaten. Kashimo with the Cursed technique >> Gojo in close combat. Lojo can't even dodge a slash.
yawn, you’re already beginning to bore me….
when and where have I stated he won’t become stronger if he eats his last finger that’s not the debate at hand here…
so is the current Sukuna not the same as 20 fingers or are what you stating just some stupid rant to make your point through, cause you have agreed that his mummy is equivalent to a fingers worth of strength hence making this “19 fingers” equivalent to a “20 finger” Sukuna… so what exactly is your point again?
spit it out, today junior.
remind me again what those conditions are once again cause gege never actually touched based on them and we’ve seen him use both his hands and then not use any hand signs to teleport, then draw a circle to teleport others but we did see in the last fight that he was teleporting without needing to clap his hands together and was also fast enough without teleporting to speed blitz Sukuna… yawn, are you actually going to elaborate on your points or just spout fallacies…
Yet we won’t actually know that until we see it won’t we. Goatjo clearly was able to continue pushing beyond his limits but those same limits applied to Sukuna and he was saved by using Maho and Megumi soul to nullify those effects of overhearing and infinite void that much is clear as Sukuna would’ve been dusted if those hit him
once again you can keep circling back to the point where Goatjo states he’s not sure which is clear indication to not actually knowing not that he would lose to him, stop trying to misconstrue words to fit your narrative while in that same fucking chapter you have Sukuna stating this:
these are the official translations from viz btw… Sukuna can not bypass infinity without Maho….
when and where have I stated he won’t become stronger if he eats his last finger that’s not the debate at hand here…
so is the current Sukuna not the same as 20 fingers or are what you stating just some stupid rant to make your point through, cause you have agreed that his mummy is equivalent to a fingers worth of strength hence making this “19 fingers” equivalent to a “20 finger” Sukuna… so what exactly is your point again?
spit it out, today junior.
remind me again what those conditions are once again cause gege never actually touched based on them and we’ve seen him use both his hands and then not use any hand signs to teleport, then draw a circle to teleport others but we did see in the last fight that he was teleporting without needing to clap his hands together and was also fast enough without teleporting to speed blitz Sukuna… yawn, are you actually going to elaborate on your points or just spout fallacies…
Yet we won’t actually know that until we see it won’t we. Goatjo clearly was able to continue pushing beyond his limits but those same limits applied to Sukuna and he was saved by using Maho and Megumi soul to nullify those effects of overhearing and infinite void that much is clear as Sukuna would’ve been dusted if those hit him
once again you can keep circling back to the point where Goatjo states he’s not sure which is clear indication to not actually knowing not that he would lose to him, stop trying to misconstrue words to fit your narrative while in that same fucking chapter you have Sukuna stating this:
these are the official translations from viz btw… Sukuna can not bypass infinity without Maho….
yawn, you’re already beginning to bore me….
when and where have I stated he won’t become stronger if he eats his last finger that’s not the debate at hand here…
so is the current Sukuna not the same as 20 fingers or are what you stating just some stupid rant to make your point through, cause you have agreed that his mummy is equivalent to a fingers worth of strength hence making this “19 fingers” equivalent to a “20 finger” Sukuna… so what exactly is your point again?
spit it out, today junior.
remind me again what those conditions are once again cause gege never actually touched based on them and we’ve seen him use both his hands and then not use any hand signs to teleport, then draw a circle to teleport others but we did see in the last fight that he was teleporting without needing to clap his hands together and was also fast enough without teleporting to speed blitz Sukuna… yawn, are you actually going to elaborate on your points or just spout fallacies…
Yet we won’t actually know that until we see it won’t we. Goatjo clearly was able to continue pushing beyond his limits but those same limits applied to Sukuna and he was saved by using Maho and Megumi soul to nullify those effects of overhearing and infinite void that much is clear as Sukuna would’ve been dusted if those hit him
once again you can keep circling back to the point where Goatjo states he’s not sure which is clear indication to not actually knowing not that he would lose to him, stop trying to misconstrue words to fit your narrative while in that same fucking chapter you have Sukuna stating this:
these are the official translations from viz btw… Sukuna can not bypass infinity without Maho….
when and where have I stated he won’t become stronger if he eats his last finger that’s not the debate at hand here…
so is the current Sukuna not the same as 20 fingers or are what you stating just some stupid rant to make your point through, cause you have agreed that his mummy is equivalent to a fingers worth of strength hence making this “19 fingers” equivalent to a “20 finger” Sukuna… so what exactly is your point again?
spit it out, today junior.
remind me again what those conditions are once again cause gege never actually touched based on them and we’ve seen him use both his hands and then not use any hand signs to teleport, then draw a circle to teleport others but we did see in the last fight that he was teleporting without needing to clap his hands together and was also fast enough without teleporting to speed blitz Sukuna… yawn, are you actually going to elaborate on your points or just spout fallacies…
Yet we won’t actually know that until we see it won’t we. Goatjo clearly was able to continue pushing beyond his limits but those same limits applied to Sukuna and he was saved by using Maho and Megumi soul to nullify those effects of overhearing and infinite void that much is clear as Sukuna would’ve been dusted if those hit him
once again you can keep circling back to the point where Goatjo states he’s not sure which is clear indication to not actually knowing not that he would lose to him, stop trying to misconstrue words to fit your narrative while in that same fucking chapter you have Sukuna stating this:
these are the official translations from viz btw… Sukuna can not bypass infinity without Maho….
And it is quite easy to do this when you are not worried about adaptation, which deprives you of even basic techniques. "Naked bitch" lasts for 3 minutes without a single namesake. Sukuna + territory reinforcement lasts much longer. Tru sukuna + strengthening of the territory it is possible that the spm will beat the gojo inside the domain (but if suddenly not) lasts MUCH LONGER than 3 minutes (breaking the barrier from the outside) or even more easily breaks the inner barrier of the logjo from the inside. End. That is why gojo repeatedly called Sukuna stronger, expressing doubts about victory without 10 shadows.
why you screaming?
so you haven’t actually answered any question I’ve actually asked in this regard, makes sense since you know you are wrong… once again for clarification no one has stated Sukuna with 20f plus mummy wouldn’t be stronger… you’ve been crying that Sukuna is weak and not at 20 finger strength cause he doesn’t have his last finger yet you’ve proven it incorrect as 19+mmy equates to full powered 20 finger Sukuna…..
so once again you’ve proven my fucking point as I stated in my last response to you gege never actually touched based on what those conditions are so where the fuck are you going with this? If you’re going to bring counterpoints please have some sort of base for argument sake as this is just boringly sad to respond to. I’m well aware Goatjo traveled to Sendai by train and he even took a car, yet we also saw the dude get unsealed and instantly teleport directly to Kenjaku… lmk when you can state what those conditions are as they are unknown and don’t seem to always make sense as from 4 kilos Goatjo didn’t use hand seals to teleport to Sukuna instead he focused on enchantment and hand signs for purple directly…
Goatjo didn’t need to clap his hands to teleport insuring his fight with Sukuna in Shibuya for every encounter nor did he need to spam teleportation as he is the fastest as he was speed blitzing Sukuna without the need for it… this was evidently showcased in CQC…
yet if he was able to finish if Goatjo with just his domain he would’ve done it instead he needed to go the route for Maho adapting to infinity… we already saw how Goatjo kept adapting to Sukuna and his domains effect changing after every encounter.
they both lasted for 5 domains so no Sukuna can’t unleash a sixth one they have limits this was clearly showcased… I do recall Goatjo even clearly stating his infinite void is much stronger than malevolent shrine in overall domains… outside of the airport when did Goatjo state Sukuna was stronger than him, cause he never did so. He called him strong once maybe twice and that’s after his death and nothing more.
regardless you’re a fucking snooze fest man you don’t even know how to actual debate topics you bring up instead you choose to go the route of fallacies, headcannon and made up false narratives with misinterpretation of the actual storyline.
you can rebuttal but I probably won’t, you’ve failed to entertain me.
so you haven’t actually answered any question I’ve actually asked in this regard, makes sense since you know you are wrong… once again for clarification no one has stated Sukuna with 20f plus mummy wouldn’t be stronger… you’ve been crying that Sukuna is weak and not at 20 finger strength cause he doesn’t have his last finger yet you’ve proven it incorrect as 19+mmy equates to full powered 20 finger Sukuna…..
so once again you’ve proven my fucking point as I stated in my last response to you gege never actually touched based on what those conditions are so where the fuck are you going with this? If you’re going to bring counterpoints please have some sort of base for argument sake as this is just boringly sad to respond to. I’m well aware Goatjo traveled to Sendai by train and he even took a car, yet we also saw the dude get unsealed and instantly teleport directly to Kenjaku… lmk when you can state what those conditions are as they are unknown and don’t seem to always make sense as from 4 kilos Goatjo didn’t use hand seals to teleport to Sukuna instead he focused on enchantment and hand signs for purple directly…
Goatjo didn’t need to clap his hands to teleport insuring his fight with Sukuna in Shibuya for every encounter nor did he need to spam teleportation as he is the fastest as he was speed blitzing Sukuna without the need for it… this was evidently showcased in CQC…
yet if he was able to finish if Goatjo with just his domain he would’ve done it instead he needed to go the route for Maho adapting to infinity… we already saw how Goatjo kept adapting to Sukuna and his domains effect changing after every encounter.
they both lasted for 5 domains so no Sukuna can’t unleash a sixth one they have limits this was clearly showcased… I do recall Goatjo even clearly stating his infinite void is much stronger than malevolent shrine in overall domains… outside of the airport when did Goatjo state Sukuna was stronger than him, cause he never did so. He called him strong once maybe twice and that’s after his death and nothing more.
regardless you’re a fucking snooze fest man you don’t even know how to actual debate topics you bring up instead you choose to go the route of fallacies, headcannon and made up false narratives with misinterpretation of the actual storyline.
you can rebuttal but I probably won’t, you’ve failed to entertain me.
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1 I'll say it again. It's not difficult for me if you try to argue with the obvious in every possible way. Tru sukun 20 finger+mummy head(his old head)>19 fingers of a sucker + a mummy's head. No matter how you try to cheat at the moment, tsukune still lacks a finger for 100% of his former strength. 2 Again. Gege did not say exactly what conditions gojo needed. He only said that the lod can teleport only under certain conditions (conditions may be different, 3 teleports per day, teleport only on Tuesdays, but there is a fact that he cannot spam them and is limited in their application). Lod/ can't even react to Sukuna's incisions, unlike Kashimo. Fucking Lodge needs three whole minutes to injure a bitch without a single technique. Yes, Sukuna could have ended it by destroying the barrier from the inside or applying stretching of the territory, (that's why gojo said he was unlikely to win without 10 shadows). Despite the fact that the gojo barrier flew apart in 3 minutes, gojo did not change the conditions anymore, because he found the best option, but he was still surprised that his fragile inner barrier was not destroyed by sukun. At the expense of speed, Sukuna realized that Kashimo could dodge unlike lod/jo and covered Kashimo with a grid of cuts. 3 You were reading inattentively. both have limitations in using RST 5 times, but at the time of the 5th battle, Sukuna used rst 2 times, and lojo 5, it was because of this that Lojo's brain overheated. Sukuna was unable to open another domain due to the effect of endless emptiness, not because of the domain limit. But he would never have fallen into this technique if not for the adaptation that deprives him of all techniques inside the domains. lol/jo I must say thank you to mahoraga for being able to catch sukuna in the domain technique. this will not happen without adaptation.
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Stop giving attention to these dumb folks @The "Tyrant" Kuma
The story was over when you take one man's technique away to make another win the fight. It became trash after that, idc what others say.
Plus, Gojo clan is known for Six Eyes and somehow, Sukuna is better at analyzing techniques without any explanation. I dont have anything against copying or understanding techniques, but the explanation was just "because he is Sukuna", lol.
At the end, it is on Gege, he decided to practice drawing his idol manga (because he knows the next one will fail miserably, so he has to use this chance). 😂
The story was over when you take one man's technique away to make another win the fight. It became trash after that, idc what others say.
Plus, Gojo clan is known for Six Eyes and somehow, Sukuna is better at analyzing techniques without any explanation. I dont have anything against copying or understanding techniques, but the explanation was just "because he is Sukuna", lol.
At the end, it is on Gege, he decided to practice drawing his idol manga (because he knows the next one will fail miserably, so he has to use this chance). 😂