Chapter Discussion Now that you need CoC to fight HK, what will other strawhats do?
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You learned nothing from Wano? Zoro and Lanji weren't important enough to beat a Yonko like Big Mom, but you think Lolda believes they are important enough to beat the Gorosei? 
Besides, if Zoro and Lanji face the Gorosei, then Luffy's 5 most important peers (Kidd, Law, Koby, Sabo, and Dragon) will have nothing to do.
There is a bigger possibility of these happening:
Luffy vs Imu
Sabo, Dragon, Koby, Law, and Kidd vs Gorosei
Zoro and Lanji vs Bickering HKs No. 2 and 3
Revo's Top 4 + The rest of SHs vs The rest of HKs
Besides, if Zoro and Lanji face the Gorosei, then Luffy's 5 most important peers (Kidd, Law, Koby, Sabo, and Dragon) will have nothing to do.
There is a bigger possibility of these happening:
Luffy vs Imu
Sabo, Dragon, Koby, Law, and Kidd vs Gorosei
Zoro and Lanji vs Bickering HKs No. 2 and 3
Revo's Top 4 + The rest of SHs vs The rest of HKs
Shanks vs Garling/Shamrock
Dragon/Sabo vs Topman/Akainu
Zoro vs Venus
Law vs Mars
Sanji vs Ju peter
Koby vs Kuzan
All fit.
I think all the og straw hats get coc
luffy - confirmed
Zoro - confirmed
Sanji - I assume he was surprised in the Gaban panel because Gaban told him he doesn’t have it. I think oda’s trolling and he’ll get it last
Name - has had a coc gag before
Usopp - imo this is the most obvious. Oda is gonna give the biggest chicken in the story coc and that’s how he’ll become a brave warrior
Chopper - why not
luffy - confirmed
Zoro - confirmed
Sanji - I assume he was surprised in the Gaban panel because Gaban told him he doesn’t have it. I think oda’s trolling and he’ll get it last
Name - has had a coc gag before
Usopp - imo this is the most obvious. Oda is gonna give the biggest chicken in the story coc and that’s how he’ll become a brave warrior
Chopper - why not
Shanks isn't beating Garling and Shamrock in 1 vs 2.
Stop trying to make Sabo vs Akainu happen. Literally there is no history between them (unlike, say, Luffy and Akainu). Sabo literally has more to do with Imu and the Gorosei than he does to Akainu.
Koby vs Kuzan would only happen during the Straw Hat Pirates vs the Blackbeard Pirates, it's not getting extended to Marie Geoise.
Stop trying to make Sabo vs Akainu happen. Literally there is no history between them (unlike, say, Luffy and Akainu). Sabo literally has more to do with Imu and the Gorosei than he does to Akainu.
Koby vs Kuzan would only happen during the Straw Hat Pirates vs the Blackbeard Pirates, it's not getting extended to Marie Geoise.
I don't think CoC is needed for the demon army. Maybe only the actual 3 knights need to be defeated by CoC. Hence the monster trio. Loki could be used to suppress the demon giants given his size alongside some of the SHs.
If Sanji doesn't awaken his CoC then I can see Loki taking on one of the knights.
If Sanji doesn't awaken his CoC then I can see Loki taking on one of the knights.
Ok, look, I don't wanna entertain any other possibility for Akainu match-up than Luffy vs Akainu, man. Dragon literally has one of the Gorosei to fight. He isn't vs Akainu when he could vs Topman or Nusjuro or any other Gorosei.
Shanks vs Garling (assuming Shanks is still alive by Final War) is not impossible, and that is why I said that it's Zoro and the Cook vs HK No. 2 and 3 (instead of HK no. 1 and 2).
About Koby:
1. If you think Koby can fight second strongest HK, then why did you write down Koby vs Kuzan when Kuzan is not even a HK?
2. More to that point, fighting 2nd or 3rd strongest enemy of the arc villain is Zoro's job (like in PH, Dressrosa, Wano, and Egghead), not Koby's job. If you think Koby will face HK no. 2, then Zoro will face HK no. 3.
Shanks vs Garling (assuming Shanks is still alive by Final War) is not impossible, and that is why I said that it's Zoro and the Cook vs HK No. 2 and 3 (instead of HK no. 1 and 2).
About Koby:
1. If you think Koby can fight second strongest HK, then why did you write down Koby vs Kuzan when Kuzan is not even a HK?
2. More to that point, fighting 2nd or 3rd strongest enemy of the arc villain is Zoro's job (like in PH, Dressrosa, Wano, and Egghead), not Koby's job. If you think Koby will face HK no. 2, then Zoro will face HK no. 3.
Yeah, ok, let's drop the Dragon vs Akainu talk (or any Akainu vs talk that is not Akainu vs Luffy) because I wholly disagree with it and no one can really change my mind about it.
Now, maybe Shanks vs Garling is possible if Shanks is still alive by then, but that would leave Shamrock to Koby. After all, Koby isn't sitting out the fight against WG, dude, even if Koby does fight the BBPs.
Look, even if you are right and Zoro vs a Gorosei is an actual possibility, you still need to accept the fact that Zoro isn't going to vs someone stronger than Law's opponent/Kidd's opponent. Wano proves this already and if you're not buying this, then you are arguing against the manga's own content.
So, if Nusjuro is 2nd strongest Gorosei like you said, that means:
Dragon or Sabo or Shanks vs Gorosei 1
Zoro vs Nusjuro
Law vs Gorosei 3
Kidd vs Gorosei 4
Dragon or Sabo or Shanks vs Gorosei 5
That match-up isn't happening because no way Lolda would highlight Zoro over Luffy's peers like Sabo/Dragon/Shanks who have far bigger hype than Zoro has ever received.
Now, if Nusjuro is 3rd strongest Gorosei, the line-up looks like this:
Dragon or Sabo or Shanks vs Gorosei 1
Dragon or Sabo or Shanks vs Gorosei 2
Zoro vs Nusjuro
Law vs Gorosei 4
Kidd vs Gorosei 5
Again, impossible because Law and Kidd's opponents will always be stronger than Zoro's.
Your Zoro vs Nusjuro hope is only possible if Nusjuro is the weakest Gorosei, which ensures that Zoro isn't gonna outperform Luffy's peers (Pointing out to Wano, I hope, being a devoted Yonko fan, you don't genuinely think beating King was more impressive than beating Big Mom), with this line-up:
Dragon or Sabo or Shanks vs Gorosei 1
Dragon or Sabo or Shanks vs Gorosei 2
Law vs Gorosei 3
Kidd vs Gorosei 4
Zoro vs Nusjuro
And we know Zoro is never gonna have the weakest of a group as his main fight.
Just to clarify, though, I don't think Zoro vs Nusjuro in the Final War is absolutely impossible. I think there is genuinely a 2-3% chance of it happening (slightly smaller than Zoro vs an Admiral at 5-6% chance). But that fight will necessitate Lolda to overturn a pattern he has steadfastly been holding for close to 30 years.
Now, maybe Shanks vs Garling is possible if Shanks is still alive by then, but that would leave Shamrock to Koby. After all, Koby isn't sitting out the fight against WG, dude, even if Koby does fight the BBPs.
Look, even if you are right and Zoro vs a Gorosei is an actual possibility, you still need to accept the fact that Zoro isn't going to vs someone stronger than Law's opponent/Kidd's opponent. Wano proves this already and if you're not buying this, then you are arguing against the manga's own content.
So, if Nusjuro is 2nd strongest Gorosei like you said, that means:
Dragon or Sabo or Shanks vs Gorosei 1
Zoro vs Nusjuro
Law vs Gorosei 3
Kidd vs Gorosei 4
Dragon or Sabo or Shanks vs Gorosei 5
That match-up isn't happening because no way Lolda would highlight Zoro over Luffy's peers like Sabo/Dragon/Shanks who have far bigger hype than Zoro has ever received.
Now, if Nusjuro is 3rd strongest Gorosei, the line-up looks like this:
Dragon or Sabo or Shanks vs Gorosei 1
Dragon or Sabo or Shanks vs Gorosei 2
Zoro vs Nusjuro
Law vs Gorosei 4
Kidd vs Gorosei 5
Again, impossible because Law and Kidd's opponents will always be stronger than Zoro's.
Your Zoro vs Nusjuro hope is only possible if Nusjuro is the weakest Gorosei, which ensures that Zoro isn't gonna outperform Luffy's peers (Pointing out to Wano, I hope, being a devoted Yonko fan, you don't genuinely think beating King was more impressive than beating Big Mom), with this line-up:
Dragon or Sabo or Shanks vs Gorosei 1
Dragon or Sabo or Shanks vs Gorosei 2
Law vs Gorosei 3
Kidd vs Gorosei 4
Zoro vs Nusjuro
And we know Zoro is never gonna have the weakest of a group as his main fight.
Just to clarify, though, I don't think Zoro vs Nusjuro in the Final War is absolutely impossible. I think there is genuinely a 2-3% chance of it happening (slightly smaller than Zoro vs an Admiral at 5-6% chance). But that fight will necessitate Lolda to overturn a pattern he has steadfastly been holding for close to 30 years.
You learned nothing from Wano? Zoro and Lanji weren't important enough to beat a Yonko like Big Mom, but you think Lolda believes they are important enough to beat the Gorosei?
Besides, if Zoro and Lanji face the Gorosei, then Luffy's 5 most important peers (Kidd, Law, Koby, Sabo, and Dragon) will have nothing to do.
There is a bigger possibility of these happening:
Luffy vs Imu
Sabo, Dragon, Koby, Law, and Kidd vs Gorosei
Zoro and Lanji vs Bickering HKs No. 2 and 3
Revo's Top 4 + The rest of SHs vs The rest of HKs
Besides, if Zoro and Lanji face the Gorosei, then Luffy's 5 most important peers (Kidd, Law, Koby, Sabo, and Dragon) will have nothing to do.
There is a bigger possibility of these happening:
Luffy vs Imu
Sabo, Dragon, Koby, Law, and Kidd vs Gorosei
Zoro and Lanji vs Bickering HKs No. 2 and 3
Revo's Top 4 + The rest of SHs vs The rest of HKs
Zoro doesn't fight any enemies that are position of any leadership. Supreme grade bs theory doesn't matter.p
You clowns need to stop thinking zoro is involved in the big leagues
@The White Crane
These guy have gotten even more delusional
You clowns need to stop thinking zoro is involved in the big leagues
@The White Crane
These guy have gotten even more delusional
Namino already shown it
Robin can probably sprout a coc with her hana hana powers
Lanji will get it
Brook prolly can hurt their souls and damage them that way
Franky has a coc as we saw in water 7. Tho it's functionality is slightly questionable after Robin clutched them
The rest of the trash won't do shit anyways
Robin can probably sprout a coc with her hana hana powers
Lanji will get it
Brook prolly can hurt their souls and damage them that way
Franky has a coc as we saw in water 7. Tho it's functionality is slightly questionable after Robin clutched them
The rest of the trash won't do shit anyways
They will stallpiece, Oda made the final villains basically boss fights for a bunch of non-top-tiers.
HKs and Seraphims are unkillable and could take on multiple opponents at once. Maybe that is the point for needing aCoC — only the strongest of the alliance would get 1v1s, the weaker ones plays support.
HKs and Seraphims are unkillable and could take on multiple opponents at once. Maybe that is the point for needing aCoC — only the strongest of the alliance would get 1v1s, the weaker ones plays support.