General & Others Oda confirms that Cross Guild is a front
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Strangely, Mihawk wants to chill WHEN HE FEELS LIKE IT… but he also wants to go around fighting whoever when he feels like it too
maybe that’s why he doesn’t get the Rayleigh treatment… Rayleigh has been doing nothing for like over a decade while Mihawk’s pass time is going around fighting swordsmen… Hence why mihawk ain’t given any such leeway
This is true but Crocodile knows Cross guild can’t make him pirates king so pirate king is still not his goal
cross guild is just a money making front. They will eventually get involved with the one piece but it will happen because of plot, not because their actual goal is find the one piece… Something random and unrelated is going to happen to randomly result in Mihawk coming across Zoro… But it won’t be that “Cross guild is fighting the Yonko for road poneglyphs”… Mihawk refused to fight for Buggy so he won’t do it
maybe that’s why he doesn’t get the Rayleigh treatment… Rayleigh has been doing nothing for like over a decade while Mihawk’s pass time is going around fighting swordsmen… Hence why mihawk ain’t given any such leeway
Crocodile can lie to himself whatever he wants, but in his heart his true goal is to be pirate king.
cross guild is just a money making front. They will eventually get involved with the one piece but it will happen because of plot, not because their actual goal is find the one piece… Something random and unrelated is going to happen to randomly result in Mihawk coming across Zoro… But it won’t be that “Cross guild is fighting the Yonko for road poneglyphs”… Mihawk refused to fight for Buggy so he won’t do it
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Bro, we know Crocodile as a character, he isn't a new villain
He wants pirates to work under him. As far as we know, he has no one except Mr 1 before cross guild. Why wouldn't he want to make CG the army for Utopia, just like was planned for baroque works?
You're missing out what the "Front" means here. The front is putting bounties on marines, not the existence of CG itself, which makes money in other ways according to Oda
He wants pirates to work under him. As far as we know, he has no one except Mr 1 before cross guild. Why wouldn't he want to make CG the army for Utopia, just like was planned for baroque works?
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You're missing out what the "Front" means here. The front is putting bounties on marines, not the existence of CG itself, which makes money in other ways according to Oda
No, buggy power scaled cross guild… buggy thinks His own men are weaker than the marine fleet that came to destroy him… This is buggy saying this… and the fleet was 1 vice admiral and 3 battleships
crocodile is single-handedly stronger than all of cross guild… So no, cross guild can’t make crocodile pirate king… It’s just a money making front as stated by oda
and no, Mihawk will also not fight for Crocodile to become pirate king… Mihawk will not fight FOR ANYONE
crocodile is single-handedly stronger than all of cross guild… So no, cross guild can’t make crocodile pirate king… It’s just a money making front as stated by oda
and no, Mihawk will also not fight for Crocodile to become pirate king… Mihawk will not fight FOR ANYONE
Because CG is fodder.. Buggy thinks CG can be defeated by 1 vice admiral and 3 battleships… that’s how weak they are… why would crocodile want an army of weaklings?
The baroque works fodder were not going to be Crocodile’s army when he did his utopia plan… and evidenced by him having made a nuclear bomb to kill all his fodder once his plan was complete… his plan was simply to get pluton.
you’re forgetting that the baroque works fodder didn’t even know crocodile was Mr.0… and the top guys only found out like two days before…
The front of Cross guild is that they have some kind of anti-marine agenda and that’s why they are putting bounties on marines… the reality is that they don’t care about the marines… they just want to make money
The baroque works fodder were not going to be Crocodile’s army when he did his utopia plan… and evidenced by him having made a nuclear bomb to kill all his fodder once his plan was complete… his plan was simply to get pluton.
you’re forgetting that the baroque works fodder didn’t even know crocodile was Mr.0… and the top guys only found out like two days before…
The front of Cross guild is that they have some kind of anti-marine agenda and that’s why they are putting bounties on marines… the reality is that they don’t care about the marines… they just want to make money
Croc wants a mighty utopia, Mihawk a peaceful one, and they need money. They don't particularly care about the marines, but they're right there to make a profit.
They both wanted to be pirate king at some point but they gave up in a way... They both know about *some* lore, they might intuitively know it's not for them. But deep down they'd love too lol
Buggy IS the lore, or at least a big part of it. He wasn't lying when he said they'd go for the one piece. We haven't seen him since, but I bet we'll see him more in control of CG soon, and he'll have a plan.
Croc and Mihawk will assist because there's money in it. And then they'll either abandon him, or become fans of him lol
They both wanted to be pirate king at some point but they gave up in a way... They both know about *some* lore, they might intuitively know it's not for them. But deep down they'd love too lol
Buggy IS the lore, or at least a big part of it. He wasn't lying when he said they'd go for the one piece. We haven't seen him since, but I bet we'll see him more in control of CG soon, and he'll have a plan.
Croc and Mihawk will assist because there's money in it. And then they'll either abandon him, or become fans of him lol
At that point he was after Pluton, and even then he did let the higher ups in BW know his plan. Now he has no Pluton, nor any army. Who else will be in his country? Of course he would need to expand, but CG is just the start. And of course they dislike the Marines, this has always been one of Crocos traits.
One of croco’s trait is disliking the marines? More than any other pirate? Like he hates marines more than Ace hates marines? Blackbeard hates marines? You can’t just give crocodile a trait that every pirate shares and then say it’s like defining characteristic of him… it’s just that pirates hates marines… that’s it
crocodile’s plan is to make money… once he makes enough money, he’ll BUY STRONGER SUBORDINATES
crocodile’s plan is to make money… once he makes enough money, he’ll BUY STRONGER SUBORDINATES
Yes, he dislikes the marines more then the other pirates, given the fact that he's trying to create a state that is competitive with the WG, and saved Ace AND Luffy at Marineford purely to spite the Marines. The idea that he wants to buy more subordinites is headcanon, and I don't mind if you believe that, but Cg is still the start, he can expand from then on
Oh yes you can get strong guys in the Supermarket
Did he ever use the word “competitive”? He said he wants to make a state that can work independent of the Marines.,. You know, LIKE A YONKO EMPIRE… Crocodile wants to make a Yonko empire without actually being Yonko level himself
so does Crocodile hate marines more than Big mom and Kaido and Whitebeard? Kaido did say he was starting a world war to destroy the WG itself… that’s WAY MORE EXTREME than crocodile right?
So do you say Kaido’s hatred of marines is even MORE pronounced than Crocodile? How come Kaido doesn’t even have a single marine in his top 5? How come he never said a single about a marine? Yet he wants to destroy the WG itself
I’m not giving you headcanon… the canonical reason as given by Oda for why Cross guild exists is to make Money for Crocodile… and the reason Crocodile wants money is to make a nation that can be independent from the WG.
how exactly will money help Crocodile make such a nation if the money isn’t also being used to BUY AN ARMY? Why not? Because He already has the cross guild fodder? The cross guild fodder THAT THINK BUGGY IS THEIR BOSS? The cross guild fodder that are weaker than 1 vice admiral and 3 marine squads? This is who Crocodile ants as Ana army, weaklings who think Buggy is their boss? That’s it?
He wants to surpass the WG. I don't know if Kaido hates the Marines specifically like Croco does, Kaido hates the CD's and Gorosei more so, I guess. The stuff about him wanting to like, buy Germa, is fine for a theory, but Crocodile hasn't mentioned it in the manga
Crocodile in egghead is no longer after pluton. So he can longer “dream of surpassing the WG”
