Chapter Discussion Oda does not care about the Strawhat crew

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

If we are talking about only post time skip.
Nami has cool moments here and there.
I just hate how long I have to wait for these moments
First half of wano and Dressrosa was bad for her tho
WCI and Zou was saving grace. That's why it is my favorite arc

I hate Egghead.

Bonney got same amount of panel time in 1.5 Years during Egghead that Nami got during wano arc even though it was 4 years long.

Bonney has 4 times of panel time of Nami in egghead
Nami wanted Flower Jewel and its Bonney who got it
What happened to her diamonds
Why did you draw it ?

Nami didn’t even used the bubble Gun. Sanji took it. Why ??

Such is the fate of the main heroine


I don't even care about fights.
I just want her to get involve in main plot.

 

[Welkin]

Introducing the Giants to fight the Buster Call instead of using the SH, at least let them fight together. Brogy one shooting an VA, who cares ? Give that moment to a Straw Hat.

The whole point of introducing the Giants was to give the Strawhats a way to escape

Why would they fight the Buster Call when their goal is to run away?

In arcs where they take the fight to their enemy I understand but that isn’t the case here. The goal is to get off the island as fast as possible with as little casualties as possible

Every action the Strawhats take is all to move them closer to that goal. That’s the whole point of Rob Lucci’s speech in the previous chapter

Spoiler

He’s holding Zoro there on purpose because he knows the Strawhats won’t leave without him

With no interference Zoro would probably be on the ship waiting to leave just like the rest of them

You can solve all of this with Yamato not existing, not giving Raizo a fight that lasted 100 chapters, and only have 4 scabbards like you intended too instead of 9, and does anyone remember the characters called Numbers ?

While I agree that some of these changes should’ve been made (mostly for bloat purposes) I think we disagree on each Strawhat needing a fight

Some of the best arcs pre timeskip had only a handful of full fights

Sabaody barely even had 1

Some Strawhats just won’t fight and that’s mostly ok

 

[Redboy776]

????

Didnt franky get defeated by a seraphim?

franky pierced saint garcia saturne and saved luffy from him.

 

[Poorsalino Cooker]

Bring Conan edogawa

Detective Vegapunk Conan 04 would've been more interesting than Pythagoras.

 

[Juanpiz]

Detective Vegapunk Conan 04 would've been more interesting than Pythagoras.

Shaka>rest

 

[Yoho]

Bring Conan edogawa

Facts I was ready to grab a pen and paper and try to solve the mystery along side the strawhats

Nate The Great That Shit

 

[Punishhh]

The whole point of introducing the Giants was to give the Strawhats a way to escape

Why would they fight the Buster Call when their goal is to run away?

In arcs where they take the fight to their enemy I understand but that isn’t the case here. The goal is to get off the island as fast as possible with as little casualties as possible

Every action the Strawhats take is all to move them closer to that goal. That’s the whole point of Rob Lucci’s speech in the previous chapter

Spoiler

He’s holding Zoro there on purpose because he knows the Strawhats won’t leave without him

With no interference Zoro would probably be on the ship waiting to leave just like the rest of them



While I agree that some of these changes should’ve been made (mostly for bloat purposes) I think we disagree on each Strawhat needing a fight

Some of the best arcs pre timeskip had only a handful of full fights

Sabaody barely even had 1

Some Strawhats just won’t fight and that’s mostly ok

I understand the point of the giants and i agree, but at least let Straw hats be part of action, and the giants will need to escape in the end also. Why not just make Usopp snipe that VA for example.

I'm not talking only about fights, the introduction of characters that i would call pointless, and not needed takes away from the SH generally.
Sabaody focuses on SH a lot, it's not all about the fights.

 

[MarineHQ]

I skip every panel that isn't Luffy or Zoro from the crew. The rest is just fucking useless.

 

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

Egghead is longer than thriller bark.
I don't care if most of them was about outside world or its just a escape arc.

Such a long arc and most of the strawhats aren't allowed to do anything but just stand in one place.

 

[DavyJones]

Wasn't a lot of the pre-TS just the crew trying to maneuver an overleveled Luffy to the front lines of combat and regularly showing that he dwarfs his crew? Literally anything that isn't fighting is done for Luffy by the crew and they regularly show off these skills in addition to fights whenever appropriate. This hasn't changed.

If I'm honest "The crew hasn't done anything" is usually mentioned by people reading through too fast and forgetting/discounting anything that isn't the crew fighting.

 

[Juanpiz]

The whole point of introducing the Giants was to give the Strawhats a way to escape

Why would they fight the Buster Call when their goal is to run away?

In arcs where they take the fight to their enemy I understand but that isn’t the case here. The goal is to get off the island as fast as possible with as little casualties as possible

Every action the Strawhats take is all to move them closer to that goal. That’s the whole point of Rob Lucci’s speech in the previous chapter

Spoiler

He’s holding Zoro there on purpose because he knows the Strawhats won’t leave without him

With no interference Zoro would probably be on the ship waiting to leave just like the rest of them



While I agree that some of these changes should’ve been made (mostly for bloat purposes) I think we disagree on each Strawhat needing a fight

Some of the best arcs pre timeskip had only a handful of full fights

Sabaody barely even had 1

Some Strawhats just won’t fight and that’s mostly ok

The strawhats won't be able to escape the BBP when the large Pizarro and San Juan wolf follow them and van Auger teleports behind them

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Wasn't a lot of the pre-TS just the crew trying to maneuver an overleveled Luffy to the front lines of combat and regularly showing that he dwarfs his crew? Literally anything that isn't fighting is done for Luffy by the crew and they regularly show off these skills in addition to fights whenever appropriate. This hasn't changed.

If I'm honest "The crew hasn't done anything" is usually mentioned by people reading through too fast and forgetting/discounting anything that isn't the crew fighting.

Sometimes it happens like Luffy and sanji against that fat woman on Skypiea or the strawhats against pacifista during sabbody

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

One Piece’s pacing has always been like this, it isn’t a new issue

It got worse

The entire crew bar Luffy was sidelined for what most people consider the greatest arc stretch in One Piece

Paradoxically they were better treated this way, can’t blame them for being useless when they literally aren’t present. And I didn’t say the manga can’t be good without them, I’m a fucking admiral fan lmao. I still can find their treatment bad.

In Skypiea (another arc a lot of people like) half the crew didn’t get full fights, nothing new

Not comparable to Egghead, lol.

I’ll acknowledge that Usopp and Nami got shafted in Wano that’s pretty much undeniable but the rest of the crew did pretty good

Only Robin and maybe Sanji, really. Zoro had good feats but his character was completely humiliated, Ryuma - Joy boy comparison, no visit to Ryuma grave, cheap ZKK baiting by the author. Franky’s fight was so rushed people thought his opponent wasn’t KO lol.
I don’t even remember what Brook did? He played second fiddle so Robin could shine.

Weakling trio treatment was just Oda jerking himself off to his humiliation fetish. Chopper got it a bit better with the virus blood, but Oda ruined it by turning him into Queen’s bitch cause a YC2 totally needed a weakling trio member as a hype tool.

 

[L57]

This has been the case for a long time now since the timeskip started, but it has become more and more evident in the more recent arcs.
It is all Nika and his Nika connectors that get the focus and meaningful moments.

Egghead perfectly encompasses this with how he has used or not used them. It has been pretty much nonstop running/offscreening/removal from action. Oda is going out of his way to get the Strawhat's who are all together in a confined area away from the main action.

To exemplify this, last chapter Oda gives us a cool shot of Kizaru confronting Clownboy and Sanji.

He then immediately sets back Sanji into what he has been doing before which is transporting people running around.

Oda sets up the greatest buster call ever assembled with all these Vice Admirals. You would think here are opponents for some for the Strawhat's instead they are relegated back to their ships to fire at the island. This chapter he shows a Vice Admiral Tosa about to perform a cool technique, something that could have been used to give Franky a great showcase against a Vice Admiral. Instead he has the situation completely diffused by having said Vice Admiral flattened like a bug by Brogy and Franky is completely disregarded.

Zoro has been in perpetual stasis since his fight with Lucci began and it is the same tired clashes for one page and then it is skipped again.

And these are the Strawhats that have gotten the most focus so far...

The others are pretty much non-existent. Brook/Nami/Jinbe/Robin/Chopper/Usopp pretty much have done NOTHING during this entire incident...
This is supposed to be the Strawhat's moment to get payback for what happened in Sabaody, what they all trained for so that this does not happen again.

Instead it is just Nika/Bonney/Giants/Pacifistas and Vegapunk that have taken up the all of the focus and get all the action. While Clownboy's crew look completely out of their depth. Really hope things change and the Strawhat's become more involved, but if Wano is any indication with how all the Scabbards/Momo/Oden Cosplayer took all the focus then this is about to get real grim.


Credit goes to Furinji Saiga from Fanverse.

Yall aint ready for elbaf
More nika wank
Strawhats doing nothing while new irrelevant char gets screen time

 

[MonsterKaido]

Has been the case since post skip

 

[Juanpiz]

Yall aint ready for elbaf
More nika wank
Strawhats doing nothing while new irrelevant char gets screen time

Wdym doing nothing? They'll show funny faces and reactions

 

[Punishhh]

Yall aint ready for elbaf
More nika wank
Strawhats doing nothing while new irrelevant char gets screen time

Big Mom and Kidd will come back

 

[Ven437]

One Piece is the Luffy show. Now that he’s been elevated to God Jesus Joyboy status his crew aka his followers are nobodies that don’t have any aura in the presence of Nika. Whether it’s Plot relevance (Joyboy strawhat) or fighting (1v1 Yonko and Admiral + Gorosei) or parallels (lol Ryuma), Nika shits all over them.

 

[Thaidakar]

Except for usop's whining and cowardice Oda has time to draw
He should die already

 

[Poorsalino Cooker]

Weakling trio treatment was just Oda jerking himself off to his humiliation fetish. Chopper got it a bit better with the virus blood, but Oda ruined it by turning him into Queen’s bitch cause a YC2 totally needed a weakling trio member as a hype tool.

Don't forget baby geezer Chopper which probably only exists so LOda and Toei could sell more toys.

And cooler forms like arm point and jump point have been discarded in favor of Plushy Point Kung Fu Point, and Horn Point hasn't even been used since Fishman Island.

 

[L57]

Big Mom and Kidd will come back

One is having a bath in the ocean the other in a lava pool