Powers & Abilities Oda dropping the ball with Haki...again
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It's not that difficult
Haki is visible so if you don't see it you should assume it wasn't used rather than it was
Now Flow haki looks different than common armament and barrier looks different from penetration. Even CoC is well clear cut
We should be capable to have a grasp also by taking into account that Luffy cannot afford not using his haki and G4 at the same rate
Haki is visible so if you don't see it you should assume it wasn't used rather than it was
Now Flow haki looks different than common armament and barrier looks different from penetration. Even CoC is well clear cut
We should be capable to have a grasp also by taking into account that Luffy cannot afford not using his haki and G4 at the same rate
Wait, so G4 isn't hardening?? I have always thought the dark rubbery part was hardening. I have always been confused about the whole CoA Haki. Up until two years ago. I thought armament and hardening were the same thing. 
Now there is CoA 3.0 wtf. I also thought Ryou was Haki now I am finding out it's another form of Haki.
Now there is CoA 3.0 wtf. I also thought Ryou was Haki now I am finding out it's another form of Haki.
Wait, so G4 isn't hardening?? I have always thought the dark rubbery part was hardening. I have always been confused about the whole CoA Haki. Up until two years ago. I thought armament and hardening were the same thing.
Now there is CoA 3.0 wtf. I also thought Ryou was Haki now I am finding out it's another form of Haki.
Now there is CoA 3.0 wtf. I also thought Ryou was Haki now I am finding out it's another form of Haki.
I never analyzed the g4 but i'm probably wrong about luffy g4, sorry
Within the sword attacks it's plenty weird. There is basically no difference to haki less blades, unless they are hardened.
But for Luffy's punching attacks I think it will be portrayed through the attack name and the steam like haki that will surrounds his arm/fist during advCoA lvl2 and for the lvl1 we will get the normal barrier.
But for Luffy's punching attacks I think it will be portrayed through the attack name and the steam like haki that will surrounds his arm/fist during advCoA lvl2 and for the lvl1 we will get the normal barrier.
Wait, so G4 isn't hardening?? I have always thought the dark rubbery part was hardening. I have always been confused about the whole CoA Haki. Up until two years ago. I thought armament and hardening were the same thing.
Now there is CoA 3.0 wtf. I also thought Ryou was Haki now I am finding out it's another form of Haki.
Now there is CoA 3.0 wtf. I also thought Ryou was Haki now I am finding out it's another form of Haki.
I guess Luffy didn't use internal destruction there maybe it actually drains way too much haki for these attacks and he can't spam it. And as a user here already said I believe the distinction between the internal destruction ones and barrier will be the names. Most attacks with internal destruction will have new names probably.
Zoro gave all that nice speech in Zou, how they were going against a Yonko, it was for real bla bla bla bla all that BS, and when he gets a shot against one, he doesn't use Haki?
I find that REALLY hard to believe.
So i assume he did use it. I don't like these "scripts" on manga fights, where the character never goes all out from the start. Kaido is exactly the kind of enemy you should go all out, or get rekt in a single mistake.
I find that REALLY hard to believe.
So i assume he did use it. I don't like these "scripts" on manga fights, where the character never goes all out from the start. Kaido is exactly the kind of enemy you should go all out, or get rekt in a single mistake.
I agree that Oda should have a clearer visual cue for CoA usage. But I guess that he can’t because it would retcon MF
That is why I think Oda has create two distinctives branch :
-invisible haki which can lead to penetration haki
-Koka which can lead to black blade
This way Oda can still explain that the big player in MF used a high level of CoA but it was invisible. The issue is that it should be visible for us. We should be able to, at first sight, to know who is using Haki and at what level.
Because based on what we saw on this chapter (and with the scabbard) we can just say that once you mastered invisible CoA you are using it everytime. Maybe it is what Oda wants to portray but it will be cool if it was clear.
That is why I think Oda has create two distinctives branch :
-invisible haki which can lead to penetration haki
-Koka which can lead to black blade
This way Oda can still explain that the big player in MF used a high level of CoA but it was invisible. The issue is that it should be visible for us. We should be able to, at first sight, to know who is using Haki and at what level.
Because based on what we saw on this chapter (and with the scabbard) we can just say that once you mastered invisible CoA you are using it everytime. Maybe it is what Oda wants to portray but it will be cool if it was clear.
Honestly I agree on the Gear 4th shit.... Having used Ryuu should do more to Kaido than Red Roc
Yet it is leaving the viewer in fucking confusion.... There are only TWO good explaination:
1- Luffy did not use advanced Ryuu destroying from inside there, because Gear 4th + Ryuu would be too taxing! So it's too soon for that
2- IF he used advanced Ryuu with Gear 4th, then the only logical thing to make Kaido endure it better is Kaido coating his stomach in Haki during that attack....
Other than those two explainations are just pure inconsistency by the writer
Because even the idea that Luffy didn't use Ryuu with Gear 4th (for no reason) is just dumb when you know fully well it doesn't work from last fight they had
Yet it is leaving the viewer in fucking confusion.... There are only TWO good explaination:
1- Luffy did not use advanced Ryuu destroying from inside there, because Gear 4th + Ryuu would be too taxing! So it's too soon for that
2- IF he used advanced Ryuu with Gear 4th, then the only logical thing to make Kaido endure it better is Kaido coating his stomach in Haki during that attack....
Other than those two explainations are just pure inconsistency by the writer
Because even the idea that Luffy didn't use Ryuu with Gear 4th (for no reason) is just dumb when you know fully well it doesn't work from last fight they had
How many more arguments of "did he use" or "didn't he use" Haki are we going to get in again? And I mean for both Luffy and Zoro. This is Marineford all over.
The Kong Gun is a Gear 4 attack but Red Roc still seemed more effective. This literally seemed to just "pushback" Kaido like Kong Organ. There was no mouth bleeding.
So what do we do now? Do we just always assume he's using it? Was he using it here? This literally just seems like a regular attack.
I mean Sanji seemed like he did more damage. I highly doubt a base Sanji attack could surpass Gear 3 + advanced CoA
And for Zoro and Killer. Oda has shown that he doesn't coat his blades a lot of the times. But with Zoro usually he does. The question begs, why the fuck wouldn't Zoro use Haki on a Yonko? That is stupid.
I've said this before... Oda doesn't always visually coat swords with Haki. Never did it for Scabbards. I think it may be a time sink in terms of art to do that. But how can we know then....
The Kong Gun is a Gear 4 attack but Red Roc still seemed more effective. This literally seemed to just "pushback" Kaido like Kong Organ. There was no mouth bleeding.
So what do we do now? Do we just always assume he's using it? Was he using it here? This literally just seems like a regular attack.
I mean Sanji seemed like he did more damage. I highly doubt a base Sanji attack could surpass Gear 3 + advanced CoA
And for Zoro and Killer. Oda has shown that he doesn't coat his blades a lot of the times. But with Zoro usually he does. The question begs, why the fuck wouldn't Zoro use Haki on a Yonko? That is stupid.
I've said this before... Oda doesn't always visually coat swords with Haki. Never did it for Scabbards. I think it may be a time sink in terms of art to do that. But how can we know then....