Questions & Mysteries Oda foreshadowing in his cover page : Zoro leaves Wano with these swords

[Formerly Seth]

Hey Guys .

As you can see Oda drew the three core of One Piece in chapter 1000 and he talked about that years ago .

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Congratulations Oda for this great work

- now on Topic as you can see below Zoro has three swords :

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- I know that @nik87 senpai will be sad but that's what oda drew there :

the Swords are : Enma / Wado ichimonji / Shusui no sandai / nidai in the picture .

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Wado ichimonji

Enma

Shusui​

Is that a foreshadowing from Oda that Zoro will leave wano with Enma and wado ichimonji and Shusui ? him gaining Shusui means that the Wano citizen recognised him as a Second Ryuma especially Gyukimaru who always denied the possibility of returning the sword to him ?

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Fake he puts Enma in the dumpster and takes Nidai instead.

 

[Lunaria]

Either way, I want him to leave Sandai behind. He shouldn’t stick with a third grade sword at this point of the story. Shusui is awesome but there’s no point in him getting it back since it’s already a Kokuto. Nidai is a beautiful sword and I’d like it to replace Sandai.

 

[Mohammad211]

i like idea of Wado / Nidai / Enma more than Wado / Shusui / Enma
but i shusui is cooler than all of this sword (in term of look)
in anime enma is also look cool but green enam was better

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

I really dislike the idea of zoro having a sword he did not blacken himself

If Zoro blackens two swords, he’s officially done more than Mihawk and Ryuma already

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Nidai is a beautiful sword and I’d like it to replace Sandai.

@Princeley Both Nidai and Enma are purple

I do not believe Oda would let Zoro’s potentially last Load out be two purple swords and a white sword.

notice how Zoro lost Yubashiri Which was Black immediately before getting Shusui which is also black

it’s weird to have two same color swords

either Zoro goes with Nidai or Enma, not both

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

I still believe that Zoro will give Hiyori Enma back, and the Country of Wano will give Zoro Shusui officially, and he'll end up with Nidai Kitetsu also. Enma is literally the only thing left to Hiyori from Oden, and I just can't see Zoro keeping it. Unless Oda decides that Zoro X Hyori will be a thing, and him keeping Enma will bring him back to her years down the line.

One thing is almost 100 percent certain though, and that is Sandai Kitetsu is getting broken, and will need to be replaced.

 

[Bil02]

If Zoro blackens two swords, he’s officially done more than Mihawk and Ryuma already

Yeah because Zoro wields multiple swords,not because Mihawk or Ryuuma couldn't.
For all we know, they could've had ample time to blacken other swords but didn't because they use 1 sword style.

 

[Lunaria]

i like idea of Wado / Nidai / Enma more than Wado / Shusui / Enma
but i shusui is cooler than all of this sword (in term of look)
in anime enma is also look cool but green enam was better

I thought it looked pretty meh in the anime, really wanted the flame pattern to be yellow but they made it barely noticeable.

If Zoro blackens two swords, he’s officially done more than Mihawk and Ryuma already

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@Princeley Both Nidai and Enma are purple

I do not believe Oda would let Zoro’s potentially last Load out be two purple swords and a white sword.

notice how Zoro lost Yubashiri Which was Black immediately before getting Shusui which is also black

it’s weird to have two same color swords

either Zoro goes with Nidai or Enma, not both

You're making a good point, didn't think about that. But there's no real evidence of Oda trying to avoid giving Zoro two swords having the same color and their overall design is radically different so who knows ? They can only be black or white in the manga anyway.

I still believe that Zoro will give Hiyori Enma back, and the Country of Wano will give Zoro Shusui officially, and he'll end up with Nidai Kitetsu also. Enma is literally the only thing left to Hiyori from Oden, and I just can't see Zoro keeping it. Unless Oda decides that Zoro X Hyori will be a thing, and him keeping Enma will bring him back to her years down the line.

One thing is almost 100 percent certain though, and that is Sandai Kitetsu is getting broken, and will need to be replaced.

Really can't see that happen. Shusui is already a Kokuto so Zoro has nothing to gain from it while Enma is not only yet to be a Kokuto but its weird properties can also help Zoro become stronger. It would make no sense to take Enma from him at this point and give him back Shusui. Hiyori is not even a warrior anyway and she has no apparent desire to be one. It's better to let the guy who will fulfill Oden's wishes take it with him.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

I thought it looked pretty meh in the anime, really wanted the flame pattern to be yellow but they made it barely noticeable.



You're making a good point, didn't think about that. But there's no real evidence of Oda trying to avoid giving Zoro two swords having the same color and their overall design is radically different so who knows ? They can only be black or white in the manga anyway.



Really can't see that happen. Shusui is already a Kokuto so Zoro has nothing to gain from it while Enma is not only yet to be a Kokuto but its weird properties can also help Zoro become stronger. It would make no sense to take Enma from him at this point and give him back Shusui. Hiyori is not even a warrior anyway and she has no apparent desire to be one. It's better to let the guy who will fulfill Oden's wishes take it with him.

Hyori didn't even want to give Zoro Enma in the first place, but she did so because she knew how much Shusui meant to the Country. To me it makes a much better narrative for Zoro to give her, her cherished fathers blade back, after the Country recognizes him like they did Ryuma, and give him Shusui back. That's who Zoro's Wano counterpart is (Ryuma), not Oden. Luffy is the one whose been likened to Oden this entire arc, and has be given the task to fulfill his wishes.

 

[Fn Lucci]

With Zoro's ties to the Shimotsuki clan, Shusui is a better fit

Anime makes them look kinda nasty

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Yeah because Zoro wields multiple swords,not because Mihawk or Ryuuma couldn't.
For all we know, they could've had ample time to blacken other swords but didn't because they use 1 sword style.

Then that means again boackening a third sword isnt a feat as well

Point is it doesnt really matter

 

[Mochiman]

Wado is obvious. Enma seems likely, because of its special skill and because if Zoro manages to blacken it, he would have surpassed Oden as a swordsman. The third sword is probably Nidai, otherwise there would be no point in introducing it. Although Shusui should be Zoro's, since he won it in a duel.

I think his post-Wano swords will be Wado, Enma and Nidai, although I would like them to be Wado, Enma and Shusui, as I consider them more special.

 

[Bil02]

Then that means again boackening a third sword isnt a feat as well

Point is it doesnt really matter

Yeah i agree.

 

[thedarkdragon11]

Sandai Kitetsu will likely be destroyed during the war... I can see Nidai Kitetsu replacing it...

That, or Tengu will create a sword for Zoro with bits of Kairoseki (like Smoker's jitte), poneglyph stone and/or Kaido's horn...

 

[Blother Fertitta]

I want to chalk this as a drawing error.

While it could happen, I'm assuming Zoro EOS will have blackened three swords on his own accord.
Him earning Shusui also makes sense, and he would know to use it much better with better Ryuo control after this Kaido fight.

I've also thought he would be on the train of Sandai --> Nidai --> Shodai Kitetsu.
Although I really am not a fan of this, he's kept Sandai for so long, this might be a possible scenario.
Or you are right and Luffy actually gets Nidai.

 

[Zowo]

I still believe that Zoro will give Hiyori Enma back, and the Country of Wano will give Zoro Shusui officially, and he'll end up with Nidai Kitetsu also. Enma is literally the only thing left to Hiyori from Oden, and I just can't see Zoro keeping it. Unless Oda decides that Zoro X Hyori will be a thing, and him keeping Enma will bring him back to her years down the line.

One thing is almost 100 percent certain though, and that is Sandai Kitetsu is getting broken, and will need to be replaced.

why would zoro give enma back? he s destined to make it black eow lol
zoro is keeping enma

 

[vikas]

Nami and zoro should take all wano treasure. No free service.

 

[CbShadow]

If that sword is shusui maybe he is foreshadowing Zoro will use wado, enma, and shusui to defeat Kaido. I have a theory about that but before we get to that let's talk about why he won't leave with shusui.

Since Zoro has already given up shusui for enma and I don't see him leaving Wano with it. He has never been one to chase after swords that aren't his. Since he's already given up shusui I don't see him wanting the sword return to him. Plus shusui is already a black blade. Zoro now knows users create black blades and it's possible for him to create a black blade so he's not going to want a sword that already has a black blade anymore. He's going to want to create his own black blades.

Why do I think shusui will be used to defeat Kaido? It's because nidai was introduced. There's no reason to introduce nidai except for Zoro to eventually obtain the sword. Like I said in my earlier post, Zoro is not one to chase after a sword just because it's a famous sword. Which means, Zoro will need a reason to obtain nidai and the only reason will be to replace a broken swords.

This is where shusui comes in play. I see sandi breaking during his battle against Kaido. Zoro will need a replacement sword for battle. Oda won't have Zoro fight and defeat Kaido with just 2 swords. That's too much and will make Zoro appear too strong. Of course, Zoro can't retrieve nidai to use against Kaido because that would mean Zoro has another sword he will need to master.

The obvious choice would be for Zoro to retrieve shusui just to use to help him defeat Kaido. That would show more parallel between Zoro and Ryuma. That would give Zoro an opportunity to show off a fully mastered shusui. We haven't seen full potential with shusui yet.

Once the Wano war is over Zoro will return Shusui and obtain nidai as a gift for defeating Kaido.

 

[Formerly Seth]

Fuck Enma trash dogshit sword related to Oden cuck.

Post wano Zoro:

Nidai/Sandai/Wado.

 

[sneko]

The problem with this is that he'll blackened only two of his swords.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

why would zoro give enma back? he s destined to make it black eow lol
zoro is keeping enma

Cause Zoro getting Shusui back feels more authentic. Even though it was Brooks shadow in Shusui's body, it still had a connection with Ryuma, even going as far as telling Zoro that with him as Shusui's master, the blade will be satisfied.

With Enma it doesn't feel as authentic, because it was Oden's sword, given to his daughter, who in turn traded it to Zoro, so Wano could get Shusui back. Enma didn't choose Zoro like Sandai, and Zoro didn't earn Enma from it's owner, like Shusui. I think if Zoro blackens Enma, it proves without a shadow of a doubt he's worthy of the Black Blade Shusui, and is the one to carry on Ryuma's legacy. Enma can then go back to it's rightful owner, Hiyori, and Wano will have a new National Treasure from the next WSS.