Character Discussion Oda has always loved to humiliate Sanji
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Pre ts Sanji was a simp gentleman, yeah sure, he was still a simp and a perv but he wanst a complete thristy creep like he is now. He was a pretty cool character too, keeping an eye out for Luffy and the crew, like he did in Alabasta or Skypea, he wasnt as strong as Zoro or Luffy but he made up for that by being smart and carefull when the crew counted on him.
Now? he dosent even stand by what he says in the same arc, he behaves like a spoiled brat....At one point he hates his family and want nothing to do with it, but wont hesitate to use use the suit his daddy gave him for futile reasons like trying to spy Nami and Robin in the bath. He was with Luffy when Robin went with CP-9, but STILL he realy went ahead and beat the crap out of Luffy and left him there in the field, knowing full well how stubborn Luffy is, he knew Luffy would NEVER leave that place until he was captured or killed by big mom's army, the sole reason why he even came back for Luffy in the first place being because he was rejected by a 16yo. And to make matters worse he didnt even apologize properly to Luffy like Ussop did when he left the crew, he only apologized to Nami, not only that but he had the balls to drag Luffy into saving his family after betraying Luffy, withoud any shred of remorse for the shit he pulled.
Now they are in wano facing 2 yonkos instead of 1 just because of Sanji, and what does he do to take responsibility for that? he goes and chases whores, getting caught in stupid traps and revealing Robin's location for the CP-0....
Now? he dosent even stand by what he says in the same arc, he behaves like a spoiled brat....At one point he hates his family and want nothing to do with it, but wont hesitate to use use the suit his daddy gave him for futile reasons like trying to spy Nami and Robin in the bath. He was with Luffy when Robin went with CP-9, but STILL he realy went ahead and beat the crap out of Luffy and left him there in the field, knowing full well how stubborn Luffy is, he knew Luffy would NEVER leave that place until he was captured or killed by big mom's army, the sole reason why he even came back for Luffy in the first place being because he was rejected by a 16yo. And to make matters worse he didnt even apologize properly to Luffy like Ussop did when he left the crew, he only apologized to Nami, not only that but he had the balls to drag Luffy into saving his family after betraying Luffy, withoud any shred of remorse for the shit he pulled.
Now they are in wano facing 2 yonkos instead of 1 just because of Sanji, and what does he do to take responsibility for that? he goes and chases whores, getting caught in stupid traps and revealing Robin's location for the CP-0....
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Oda truly hates him lmao. Was rewatching Fishman Island arc and saw this
Tbh i have no issues with his power-up - i actually like it. But i just can't take Sanji seriously when i see shit like that in almost every single episode
Tbh i have no issues with his power-up - i actually like it. But i just can't take Sanji seriously when i see shit like that in almost every single episode
Pre-Time skip sanji was way better, post TS gags are a bit overboard tbh.
Oda is a retard, there is nothing about hate here.
But thought it was funny making a completely over the top nosebleed for Sanji, thats what was really bad cuz didn't even made sense, Oda just throw that shit out of nowhere, but thats only on fishmen island thankfully.
Sanji being a perv was always a thing, despite some pussies just take it too damn seriously, but these are the dudes who don't even like Sanji to begin with so doesn't make any difference because haters gonna hate on every single opportunity.
But i find that specific scene funny (the one that you showed an image, Sanji has always been like that actually, i would've liked it kept that way, but i don't think its canon)
But thought it was funny making a completely over the top nosebleed for Sanji, thats what was really bad cuz didn't even made sense, Oda just throw that shit out of nowhere, but thats only on fishmen island thankfully.
Sanji being a perv was always a thing, despite some pussies just take it too damn seriously, but these are the dudes who don't even like Sanji to begin with so doesn't make any difference because haters gonna hate on every single opportunity.
But i find that specific scene funny (the one that you showed an image, Sanji has always been like that actually, i would've liked it kept that way, but i don't think its canon)
Oda truly hates him lmao. Was rewatching Fishman Island arc and saw this
Tbh i have no issues with his power-up - i actually like it. But i just can't take Sanji seriously when i see shit like that in almost every single episode
Tbh i have no issues with his power-up - i actually like it. But i just can't take Sanji seriously when i see shit like that in almost every single episode
just the way you think, not the way Oda does
Oda truly hates him lmao. Was rewatching Fishman Island arc and saw this
Tbh i have no issues with his power-up - i actually like it. But i just can't take Sanji seriously when i see shit like that in almost every single episode
Tbh i have no issues with his power-up - i actually like it. But i just can't take Sanji seriously when i see shit like that in almost every single episode
He is the cuck for a reason you know 
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Oda truly hates him lmao. Was rewatching Fishman Island arc and saw this
Tbh i have no issues with his power-up - i actually like it. But i just can't take Sanji seriously when i see shit like that in almost every single episode
Tbh i have no issues with his power-up - i actually like it. But i just can't take Sanji seriously when i see shit like that in almost every single episode
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Nothing about that is even correct and Sanji is same as prior as he been type of guy into women since debut..
Also using RS if it is useful is more important than not hate on his family and he has used it for purposes needed and why you think Sanji will stop on his love for women fater that. That isn't spoiled brat, that called your being idiot.
Also enough of stupidity of 'Sanji told her location', CP0 knew where she was for whole time even talk about her prior before Maria stuff. Your dumbass to think Sanji is putting her in danger when same character defeated T6H on her own and even have Brook by her side. He hasn't put anyone in danger and instead saved them more times in many times even the guy your trying to compare to Zoro who been messing up more on his area than anyone. Also your complete dumbass through and through, do you want Sanji to ignored about them saying they blackmailing 'Zeff' and do nothing? Luffy and others wouldn't like that he throw away everything and it was to happen cause Luffy was one to start a fight to Big Mom in WCI. Idk why you think that and also you know Pudding went for him more than he went for her when he thought more about Nami. This isn't case on Zoro and his own issues on Kuina. Nothing he did was because of his own actions, but events by others out of his hand. Idk why you think Sanji could stop something he has no where to be there for when he is unable on that. That is not making sense.
Maria thing is because he thought woman was being attacked, so you can't denied that if you hear similar thing and go to help a person. Sanji been good in pre-timeskip, but your confusing him not fighting much thinking 'he is bad' when he has his fights, but this is first time in full awhile he get big fight to finish.
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That's Zoro's job after what Mihawk did to him .
How is this 'hateful'? Even in pre-timeskip, Sanji was acting this way with females especially time on Nami and Vivi or Nami and Robin. You guys are on cope to say he 'hates' him when we got him fighting top guys on his own compare to another guy who became an bandaged meme chapters ago.
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Nothing about that is even correct and Sanji is same as prior as he been type of guy into women since debut..
Also using RS if it is useful is more important than not hate on his family and he has used it for purposes needed and why you think Sanji will stop on his love for women fater that. That isn't spoiled brat, that called your being idiot.
Also enough of stupidity of 'Sanji told her location', CP0 knew where she was for whole time even talk about her prior before Maria stuff. Your dumbass to think Sanji is putting her in danger when same character defeated T6H on her own and even have Brook by her side. He hasn't put anyone in danger and instead saved them more times in many times even the guy your trying to compare to Zoro who been messing up more on his area than anyone. Also your complete dumbass through and through, do you want Sanji to ignored about them saying they blackmailing 'Zeff' and do nothing? Luffy and others wouldn't like that he throw away everything and it was to happen cause Luffy was one to start a fight to Big Mom in WCI. Idk why you think that and also you know Pudding went for him more than he went for her when he thought more about Nami. This isn't case on Zoro and his own issues on Kuina. Nothing he did was because of his own actions, but events by others out of his hand. Idk why you think Sanji could stop something he has no where to be there for when he is unable on that. That is not making sense.
Maria thing is because he thought woman was being attacked, so you can't denied that if you hear similar thing and go to help a person. Sanji been good in pre-timeskip, but your confusing him not fighting much thinking 'he is bad' when he has his fights, but this is first time in full awhile he get big fight to finish.
.How is this 'hateful'? Even in pre-timeskip, Sanji was acting this way with females especially time on Nami and Vivi or Nami and Robin. You guys are on cope to say he 'hates' him when we got him fighting top guys on his own compare to another guy who became an bandaged meme chapters ago.
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Nothing about that is even correct and Sanji is same as prior as he been type of guy into women since debut..
Also using RS if it is useful is more important than not hate on his family and he has used it for purposes needed and why you think Sanji will stop on his love for women fater that. That isn't spoiled brat, that called your being idiot.
Also enough of stupidity of 'Sanji told her location', CP0 knew where she was for whole time even talk about her prior before Maria stuff. Your dumbass to think Sanji is putting her in danger when same character defeated T6H on her own and even have Brook by her side. He hasn't put anyone in danger and instead saved them more times in many times even the guy your trying to compare to Zoro who been messing up more on his area than anyone. Also your complete dumbass through and through, do you want Sanji to ignored about them saying they blackmailing 'Zeff' and do nothing? Luffy and others wouldn't like that he throw away everything and it was to happen cause Luffy was one to start a fight to Big Mom in WCI. Idk why you think that and also you know Pudding went for him more than he went for her when he thought more about Nami. This isn't case on Zoro and his own issues on Kuina. Nothing he did was because of his own actions, but events by others out of his hand. Idk why you think Sanji could stop something he has no where to be there for when he is unable on that. That is not making sense.
Maria thing is because he thought woman was being attacked, so you can't denied that if you hear similar thing and go to help a person. Sanji been good in pre-timeskip, but your confusing him not fighting much thinking 'he is bad' when he has his fights, but this is first time in full awhile he get big fight to finish.
Tell me what part of spying on Nami and Robin was needed? Now he is complaining like a bitch "uh nuh i wont wear mah raidsuitz to fight u queen, juz becuz u talking about mah daddy".
You dont even understand the story you are reading, no wonder you are a sanji fan out of all things. Judge just didnt want to marry off one of his "useful" sons to live off in big mom's territory, thats the only reason why he went for Sanji in the first place, Luffy's grudge with big mom had nothing to do with it, they would have gonne after Sanji anyway. Sanji could have just told Luffy soo they would kick the living fuck out of germa before they could do shit.
And yeah, lets not forget how the fucking traitor just put a massive target on Robin, no, CP-0 couldnt know Robin was there for sure, and they definely didnt know where she was in the middle of the battle, now they know and its all because of Sanji and his inconpentence.
Why the fuck are you even mentioning Zoro and Kuina? If Sanji didnt see Pudding talkign shit behind his back he would have delivered the food to her while Luffy died in the rain, and thats the cold hard truth thats Sanjistans dont want to see. And yeah, he NEVER properly apologized to Luffy.
No, saying "but this is first time in a while he get big fight to finish" is wrong, the right phrase should be "this is the first time in a while where sanji gets a fight where the opponent dosent finish the crap out of him instantly". He left nami and the others alone with big mom to go chase whores, are you forgetting that? Or just pretending to be dumb?
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Nah, he still gentleman to them, not guy who try to force himself on a woman as it against his code and how he was raised. Gag is gag, Zoro has gag of getting lost, losing swords, and being stupid. It issues to that Oda puts on everyone, but it not issues that take away character and your dumbass on idiocy on that as Sanji had that issues after being on island for 2 years without women and to characters didn't have a time to. He is pervert yes, but he isn't taking it far from anything on his actions if your trying to put that after we had Maria situation on how strong he isn't going to attack a woman.
To help them escape from Hawkins and Drake, if he wasn't there, you think they can beat them? If you say 'yes' then your dumbass again in that talk. He wears it on moments it can be on stealth missions, not for fighting. He had no issue fighting as shown hurting YCs on his own even facing 3 one point.
The issue on that was because Sanji got message they have Baratie and Zeff and you think best idea is to 'ignore' not do anything? He had to do something and Luffy started this on FI arc after challenging Big Mom, if you think this issue got started by Sanji, nah, Luffy started this arcs ago. Also they facing Kaido soon, so Sanji didn't have time to tell them nor put them facing another Yonko Crew and his family at same time as no way they be taking two on same time like that if you think that can happen that point, not then.
Zoro thinks about her especially on Tashigi on her image, so only saying on your talk on that. Sanji would have went there sooner or later as he would have come regardless of Pudding or not and he had apologized to Luffy, but Luffy told him to be honest and he told him truth on his feelings.
It is that as his fights get interrupted or not finished and nothing you said is remotely close? So your saying him hurting Vergo, Oven, Daifuku, and more Sanji wouldn't beat them if it continue? Dumbass logic you have and biased one on that. You have no true knowledge on character only biased in your talk. You mean 'false talk' when he came back to saved Momo from being harm? Can't you not tell when he is lying to have secret missions on his own. He did this same issue on Alabasta where he lies about his area only to come back to sneak on the enemy. You really think he actually went to whores after he appear to free Momo and there the entire time? Not dumb, but your on copium as toxic users been trying on this issue on 'abilities' and now your misunderstanding everything as your new cope.
You have issues and your in denial. Stop being delusional because Zoro isn't on 'ZKK' being debunked and struggling on your prior talk of 'one-shot' YC to King and Queen who he mention struggle about them. Your truly not honest guy and head up your own ass this rate.
To help them escape from Hawkins and Drake, if he wasn't there, you think they can beat them? If you say 'yes' then your dumbass again in that talk. He wears it on moments it can be on stealth missions, not for fighting. He had no issue fighting as shown hurting YCs on his own even facing 3 one point.
The issue on that was because Sanji got message they have Baratie and Zeff and you think best idea is to 'ignore' not do anything? He had to do something and Luffy started this on FI arc after challenging Big Mom, if you think this issue got started by Sanji, nah, Luffy started this arcs ago. Also they facing Kaido soon, so Sanji didn't have time to tell them nor put them facing another Yonko Crew and his family at same time as no way they be taking two on same time like that if you think that can happen that point, not then.
Zoro thinks about her especially on Tashigi on her image, so only saying on your talk on that. Sanji would have went there sooner or later as he would have come regardless of Pudding or not and he had apologized to Luffy, but Luffy told him to be honest and he told him truth on his feelings.
It is that as his fights get interrupted or not finished and nothing you said is remotely close? So your saying him hurting Vergo, Oven, Daifuku, and more Sanji wouldn't beat them if it continue? Dumbass logic you have and biased one on that. You have no true knowledge on character only biased in your talk. You mean 'false talk' when he came back to saved Momo from being harm? Can't you not tell when he is lying to have secret missions on his own. He did this same issue on Alabasta where he lies about his area only to come back to sneak on the enemy. You really think he actually went to whores after he appear to free Momo and there the entire time? Not dumb, but your on copium as toxic users been trying on this issue on 'abilities' and now your misunderstanding everything as your new cope.
You have issues and your in denial. Stop being delusional because Zoro isn't on 'ZKK' being debunked and struggling on your prior talk of 'one-shot' YC to King and Queen who he mention struggle about them. Your truly not honest guy and head up your own ass this rate.
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Damn you must be a complete creep too if you think spying on naked women withoud their consent is "being a gentleman" or "normal". He wasnt in the bath because he knew Hawkings and Drake where going there, no one knew there was a traitor at the time, he went there to spy on them.
Yet he still fought his daddy, but got absolutely destroyed, like usual. And yes he did went after whores you idiot, he just couldnt find any as the brothel was empty because of big mom.
Yet Zoro still fights Tashigi instead of letting her beat the fuck out of him, Zoro dont like fighting women too but he is not a garbage character with nonsensical motivations.
Getting his leg crushed by vergo, or absolutely destroyed by Doffy, or beaten to submission by his daddy....Yeah man, he was lucky his opponents didnt kill him if he couldnt even deal with trash like Judge.
Why are you mentioning shit not even remotely related to the discussion? Who even mentioned ZKK?
Yet he still fought his daddy, but got absolutely destroyed, like usual. And yes he did went after whores you idiot, he just couldnt find any as the brothel was empty because of big mom.
Yet Zoro still fights Tashigi instead of letting her beat the fuck out of him, Zoro dont like fighting women too but he is not a garbage character with nonsensical motivations.
Getting his leg crushed by vergo, or absolutely destroyed by Doffy, or beaten to submission by his daddy....Yeah man, he was lucky his opponents didnt kill him if he couldnt even deal with trash like Judge.
Why are you mentioning shit not even remotely related to the discussion? Who even mentioned ZKK?
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