Powers & Abilities Oda "not allowing" Sanji-Zoro to learn Rankyaku-Geppou, a good thing or a bad thing?

[langitbarat]

Rankyaku is a powerful projectile technique, in which the users start by kicking at very high speeds and strength, which results in a sharp compressed blade of wind.

“ It is possible to be fast enough to cause slicing winds... ” — Kalifa, CP9

Shiki has shown a technique similar to Rankyaku Ran and Renge, due to having Oto and Kogarashi grafted in his legs, kicking rapidly while floating in midair.

Donquixote Doflamingo performed a kick of such strength it resembles Rankyaku Amane Dachi, slicing through all three of the Dressrosa palace's towers, without the preparatory spinning.

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Geppo allows users to push themselves off the air itself with superhumanly strong kicks, allowing them to travel through and remain in midair for an extended period of time. It effectively resembles flight.

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Rankyaku, just by looking at it's description, is related to speed and kick, something Sanji should be good at.

Geppou, requires a good leg strength, and we know Zoro is capable of blitzing super fast, so technically he should have the necessary requirements to do this.

However, for "balance purpose" :
- Sanji isn't allowed to do air slash ala Rankyaku because it resembles a swordsman's Air Slash/Flying Slash. Also, Sanji isn't allowed to have ranged attacks.
- Zoro isn't allowed to fly because Luffy and Sanji can do it, and for whatever other reason.

Fundamentally, this doesn't matter because Zoro can launch himself to the air, and Sanji is so fast he can arrive at the same time as a ranged projectile.

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1. Do you agree/like/accept this Oda's decision?
2. Do you think the Wings not having this skillset is fine/doesn't matter?
3. Will Oda give them these skills EoS?

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Geppou doesn't really fit Zoro as his legs are not required to perform for any of his attacks but Sanji not learning Rankyaku is a big mistake imo. I know that Sanji learning Rankyaku would "overshadow" Zoro's role as a swordsman but it doesn't hurt to have more than one lethal attackers ya know. And besides, Sanji needs some long ranged attack outside of Hell's Memories.

 

[Buggy D Clown]

Geppou doesn't really fit Zoro as his legs are not required to perform for any of his attacks but Sanji not learning Rankyaku is a big mistake imo. I know that Sanji learning Rankyaku would "overshadow" Zoro's role as a swordsman but it doesn't hurt to have more than one lethal attackers ya know. And besides, Sanji needs some long ranged attack outside of Hell's Memories.

What do you mean his legs are not required to perform attacks? Stances and bursting foward are a huge part of his attacks.
SHs have another swordsman on the crew and spent 90% of New World traveling with another 2-3. Sanji with Rankyaku ain't overshadowing anything

 

[Captain Dom]

What do you mean his legs are not required to perform attacks? Stances and bursting foward are a huge part of his attacks.
SHs have another swordsman on the crew and spent 90% of New World traveling with another 2-3. Sanji with Rankyaku ain't overshadowing anything

Zoro fights with his swords,Not his legs. Sanji is who fights with his legs.

plus Zoro can already let out strong slashes with his swords. He has no need for that.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

What do you mean his legs are not required to perform attacks? Stances and bursting foward are a huge part of his attacks.

Zoro got good leaping burst speed by default, having Geppou to amplify it wouldn't do much imo.

SHs have another swordsman on the crew and spent 90% of New World traveling with another 2-3. Sanji with Rankyaku ain't overshadowing anything

Rankyaku works the same as swordsman's slash attacks, you don't see Brook throwing flying slashes like Zoro does. So Sanji learning that would practically having another Zoro in the crew hence the overshadowing.

 

[Herrera95]

Sanji having wind cuts would be awesome for him.

Zoro doesn't need to fly but Oda being consistent with his overall strength and allowing him to jump at high heights would be enough.

Really Zoro is strong enough to jump above Kaido he doesn't need Law to teleport him. I agree that he couldn't jump to Pica at Dressrosa but Kaido is about 5m height while Pica was like some km height.

 

[Buggy D Clown]

Zoro fights with his swords,Not his legs. Sanji is who fights with his legs.

plus Zoro can already let out strong slashes with his swords. He has no need for that.

Geppo not rankyaku

Zoro got good leaping burst speed by default, having Geppou to amplify it wouldn't do much imo.

It would help a lot being able to do his attacks in the air

Rankyaku works the same as swordsman's slash attacks, you don't see Brook throwing flying slashes like Zoro does. So Sanji learning that would practically having another Zoro in the crew hence the overshadowing.

Kinemon and Law were with SHs for 90% of the new world and they could both do it as well as cut steel yet it didn't overshadow Zoro at all. Flying slashes isn't everything that makes a swordsman, yet Brook doesn't overshadow Zoro in any of the other swordsman related things

 

[CbShadow]

They don't need it.

Sanji fighting style doesn't include cutting attacks so there's no need for him to learn rankyuka. It doesn't fit his style.

Zoro created his own sword style technique to move through the he air.

Zoro doesn't need to learn geppou to move through the air.

 

[BuggyDGod]

Geppou doesn't really fit Zoro as his legs are not required to perform for any of his attacks but Sanji not learning Rankyaku is a big mistake imo. I know that Sanji learning Rankyaku would "overshadow" Zoro's role as a swordsman but it doesn't hurt to have more than one lethal attackers ya know. And besides, Sanji needs some long ranged attack outside of Hell's Memories.

I much rather Sanji diversify his moveset and learn some cool moves than get robot upgrades but thats just me.

 

[Egghead]

Neither not having it is stupid as hell. Zoro literally has a No Sword Style and has boasted his body itself is a weapon.

Sanji’s legs and culinary expertise in addition to Diable Jambe would make him an unstoppable user of the technique.

 

[Kiku]

They wouldn't look cool

 

[Robin swan]

Geppo and/or soru would be god send for Zoro and completely erase his 1 down side mobility. Rankyaku would add a entirely different dimension to his style ranged attacks. Oda didn't give them it for the same reason he didn't give them df he doesn't want them to strong for the story. If sanji and Zoro just are no to low diffing opponents it's not a very entertaining story. I don't think oda is a good enough writer to constantly have to keep writing 2 more fights on par with luffy's every arc nor do I think he wants to always add 2 villains about as strong as the big bad just so zoro and Sanji aren't having extremely easy fights. He already has to nerf Zoro in fights to keep them good I highly doubt he'd want to do even more plus now have to do it with Sanji.

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

It doesn't fit with them.
Good decision.

 

[Punk Rotten]

Why? They have their own methods already that do the same things. Leave rokushiki to the WG

 

[Egghead]

Why? They have their own methods already that do the same things. Leave rokushiki to the WG

Rokushiki doesnt belong to the WG though, just in name. We see characters with no relation to the WG using these techniques. Iron Body is just armament haki. Sanji naturally moves so fast he looked like he was using Shave then went on and discovered how to Moonwalk on his own out of desperation.

 

[Roo]

Because the MCs need their own unique fighting styles