General & Others Oda spoiled that Luffy is Joyboy already!?

ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

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Doesn't Oda's message here confirm that Luffy is Joyboy. Oda says The importance of Luffy's struggles would be made clear by this flashback. Given the flashback ends by hyping up this Joyboy as so pivotal to everything, it sort of implies this is Luffy


I'm using Correlation here. Oda says the flashback would give further importance to Luffy and company fighting Kaido. Then the flashback ends with a prophecy of Joyboy and the importance of opening the borders and beating kaido.

By simple correlation it most certainly seems like Oda spoiled that Luffy is Joyboy
 
Rmstorm

Rmstorm

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ImmaIvanoM said:

Doesn't Oda's message here confirm that Luffy is Joyboy. Oda says The importance of Luffy's struggles would be made clear by this flashback. Given the flashback ends by hyping up this Joyboy as so pivotal to everything, it sort of implies this is Luffy


I'm using Correlation here. Oda says the flashback would give further importance to Luffy and company fighting Kaido. Then the flashback ends with a prophecy of Joyboy and the importance of opening the borders and beating kaido.

By simple correlation it most certainly seems like Oda spoiled that Luffy is Joyboy
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Oda did spoil Luffy being Joyboy.
 
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Homelander

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Read Chapter 1 Luffy was always destined , not surprising i knew from fishman island he has connection with Joyboy .

However JoyBoy may be group of people , Luffy wont be alone prophesied i mean the entire strawhats will take the burden of the past . I am curious how oda will connect void century with current storyline ! Luffy is not kind of person who will look for fight just becase D clan were wiped off in those period .

The story must connect with present settings so that past will have the same meaning . I am certain we will see WG entering into picture soon enough , they'll show their true color of what they really are .
 
Sadistic Senpai

Sadistic Senpai

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Rmstorm said:
Oda did spoil Luffy being Joyboy.
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Yeah... he kinda did LOL specially after reading the last few chapters...

I have to say though... I find many people hell bent on going against the idea/theme of destiny/fate in this series.
But I have to say that if they are totally against it.. and cannot accept it... they better be prepared for a real disappointment.

Simply because Oda HAS BEEN selling this destiny/fate idea ever since Luffy's execution in Logue Town! Where as Barto said, he MIRACULOUSLY was saved!

We then have people like "Smoker/Kizaru/Akainu" and so many others who managed to corner Luffy into checkmate... but then SOMEHOW... Luffy is saved... and what's more... those same character say those words "it's like Heaven is trying to help him out"

Then, we have Blackbeard crew... and one of his crewmembers constantly talking about "fate"

We have Rayleigh who stated to SHs that "perhaps EVERYTHING happens for a reason"

We have SOOO MANY other stuff

So... you guys have to start to ACCEPT this reality and that Oda does involve destiny/fate into the story.

It's been an old concept he had. NOT a new one!

And it's exactly like before Imu-sama appeared. And I was constantly talking about the possibility of a hidden king for Marijoa Kingdom. Because I have NEVER known any establishment or organization that EVER existed without having some figure to hold most of its power.

I couldn't accept the fact that Gorosei are ruling with equal partnership. There had to be someone who stands at the top. NO MATTER WHAT... that's how the world works... it will never change! So, it was either one of those 5 gorosei holds more reign and power than the rest... OR a true king for Marijoa Kingdom. I got lots of backlash... with stupid people calling me "that's Kaguya... Oda will never do that...Oda has to foreshadow him from ages ago before doing that". And as Joker says "Here we go!" LOL

Now... I'm not against Destiney shit because I have seen it from miles away...

HOWEVER, I can see why people would complain about it... because it would take away from Luffy's and co achievements. because he was always destined. OR, the more deep meaningful argument that I really got behind is that "Luffy wants to be the most free person" but then he was NEVER free because he was a pawn to his own destiny!

Which is why I can see the view and see why many would be disappointment.. However, I think Oda COULD turn this into a grandiose cheers by the fans if he went the Destiny route... but from a different way...

Meaning... let's take Sengoku's words for a minute: " People of the D. always has checkered life"

Then... let's also recognize the fact that the ORIGINAL Joyboy FAILED against WG/Imu and co

Let's also recognize the fact that Imu-sama for some shocking reasons... he targeted "Luffy/Blackbeard/Sirahoshi/Vivi" as if he was some Seer or some AL Mighty God, knowing of EVERYTHING that's going around... which is part of why Joyboy somewhat failed 800 Years ago.

Also, the fact that it seems they have the ability to cleanse the world, and erase people/whole country from HISTORY itself

The point I'm trying to make is... WHAT IF.. Oda wants to go the Destiny route... which is one of the D. will show up, leading a new army against WG.... have a lot of obstacle.... but the ironic thing is that... EVERYTIME they try to do that... and overthrow the WG... they ARE DESTINED TO FAIL.

So, basically, what Oda goes for is that Luffy's destiny is not simply him WINNING.. Rather, his destiny is like previous D. who came before him... they are destined to FAIL.

And that's what will make it a GREAT favorited by all fans I think. Where, Luffy battles his own destiny and he finds a way to break the curse/destiny.

And what is special about this once in a lifetime chance is that in this year.... EVERY significant player will be there... and participate... Joyboy(Luffy), Poseidon.. Pluton... Uranos... One Piece itself.... and so many other different factors... where previous generations all helped and had a hand in preparing this current generation into having this slight chance of fighting destiny. People like Roger/Oden and maybe even Xebec had some role in making Roger follow the clues... etc.

I think that would be outstanding if done!
 
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Fallen Prince

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It will be boring if Luffy turned out to be Joyboy but indicators points to him . Its kinda dead obvious after oden's story the one waiting roger predicted someone in 20 years will create havoc will be luffy .

However i dont think luffy will be happy learning about it that he is some chosen one or a ghost from 800 years ago incarnating . Luffy will probably.
 
Rmstorm

Rmstorm

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Fallen Prince said:
It will be boring if Luffy turned out to be Joyboy but indicators points to him . Its kinda dead obvious after oden's story the one waiting roger predicted someone in 20 years will create havoc will be luffy .

However i dont think luffy will be happy learning about it that he is some chosen one or a ghost from 800 years ago incarnating . Luffy will probably.
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Luffy does not give a shit about that, he does whatever he wants.
 
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Fallen Prince

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Finalbeta said:
JoyBoy is a man who lives hundreds of years in the past

The only feasible chance here is descendancy

No other option can be possible in my opinion.

Unless Luffy as a new born was sent into the future
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Joyboy being luffy is predictable , hopefully its another candidate like sabo or dragon.

There are no hints it has to be luffy in this story. I really hope we ca n avoid the one or savior of wotld in op.
 
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