Powers & Abilities Oda will retcon how CoC is acquired

#1
Initially we were told you need to be born a conqueror to have CoC. But then you had Zoro awaken it out of the blue despite being an esteemed pirate for over 2 years and being trained by Mihawk.

If Zoro was really born with CoC, why did it take him so long to awaken it when characters like Ace, Yamato, and Doffy had it since childhood? What about Sanji and other characters, who will likely gain CoC as the power seems more and more necessary for characters to stay relevant?

Imo Oda will resolve this by a retcon. He will introduce that some conquerors can cause those that follow them to likewise awaken CoC. This will be used to justify numerous characters getting CoC power ups to stay relevant in the final war.

This will be how characters like Usopp and Nami will get ACoC despite them being so weak.
 

Yoho

Ruthlessness is Mercy upon yourself
#2
Initially we were told you need to be born a conqueror to have CoC. But then you had Zoro awaken it out of the blue despite being an esteemed pirate for over 2 years and being trained by Mihawk.

If Zoro was really born with CoC, why did it take him so long to awaken it when characters like Ace, Yamato, and Doffy had it since childhood? What about Sanji and other characters, who will likely gain CoC as the power seems more and more necessary for characters to stay relevant?

Imo Oda will resolve this by a retcon. He will introduce that some conquerors can cause those that follow them to likewise awaken CoC. This will be used to justify numerous characters getting CoC power ups to stay relevant in the final war.

This will be how characters like Usopp and Nami will get ACoC despite them being so weak.
Luffy didnt awaken his until pre timeskip

And we don't know when Hancock, Katakuri, Chinjao or Sengoku unlocked their conquerors
 
#4
Asura is Zoro's CoC leaking out, so Zoro's first usage was Enies Lobby and used it multiple times pre-TS. He used it before Luffy did.

Zoro having CoC was not a retcon, it was an inevitability. That being said, Oda will absolutely be retconning what makes a conqueror as he had King ask Zoro what kind of king he wants to be as if it matters, but guys like Coby and Sanji don't want to be kings of anything.

Atp anyone who's willing to die for their dream/morals is now a valid contender for CoC. Which is a pretty shit condition as people like King/Marco don't have it when bums with less strength/potential than them do. Basically it's absolutely turned to complete shit.
 
#5
Luffy didnt awaken his until pre timeskip
That’s valid tho, he was 17 and in his first year of piracy

Zoro was already a powerful haki user when he got CoC
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Atp anyone who's willing to die for their dream/morals is now a valid contender for CoC. Which is a pretty shit condition as people like King/Marco don't have it when bums with less strength/potential than them do. Basically it's absolutely turned to complete shit.
It will be treated like super saiyan

Initially it was a big deal and Goku struggled to get it

Then by the end of the series even little kids were able to use it
 
#6
Asura is Zoro's CoC leaking out, so Zoro's first usage was Enies Lobby and used it multiple times pre-TS. He used it before Luffy did.

Zoro having CoC was not a retcon, it was an inevitability. That being said, Oda will absolutely be retconning what makes a conqueror as he had King ask Zoro what kind of king he wants to be as if it matters, but guys like Coby and Sanji don't want to be kings of anything.

Atp anyone who's willing to die for their dream/morals is now a valid contender for CoC. Which is a pretty shit condition as people like King/Marco don't have it when bums with less strength/potential than them do. Basically it's absolutely turned to complete shit.
In all fairness the requirements for CoC have always been shaky at best

Ace didn’t truly want to be the PK or a particularly notable figure. All he wanted to do was figure out whether he deserved to be born or not

Chinjao wanted nothing more than to maintain his family’s wealth and gave up as soon as he could no longer access it

Katakuri only wants to protect his family. Like that’s literally it

I think CoC initially might’ve been something tied to your ambition/goal when Oda came up with the concept for it but by the end of pre timeskip I think he changed it

It’s really just about willpower now
 
#7
I actually like that not every character awakens it at the same time. Oda had already established that in the pre ts by having Ace awaken it way earlier than Luffy
 
#9
In all fairness the requirements for CoC have always been shaky at best

Ace didn’t truly want to be the PK or a particularly notable figure. All he wanted to do was figure out whether he deserved to be born or not

Chinjao wanted nothing more than to maintain his family’s wealth and gave up as soon as he could no longer access it

Katakuri only wants to protect his family. Like that’s literally it

I think CoC initially might’ve been something tied to your ambition/goal when Oda came up with the concept for it but by the end of pre timeskip I think he changed it

It’s really just about willpower now
Some dudes really think everything needs to be about Zoro's character traits

"This character doesn't talk about his ambition like Zoro (insert Luffy alongside him as always) so he doesn't deserve CoC"
 
#10
If Zoro was really born with CoC, why did it take him so long to awaken it when characters like Ace, Yamato, and Doffy had it since childhood?.
Zoro is not a CoC specialist. He's a CoA specialist. I thought this was made clear. Captains/Leaders are usually the CoC specialists.



The first Haki you unlock is usually what you're a specialist at. Luffy first unlocked CoC. Koby first unlocked CoO, etc.

It seems from the convo with Mihawk that CoA was also the first Haki Zoro unlocked

 

Marimo_420

The Honoured One
#11
Zoro is not a CoC specialist. He's a CoA specialist. I thought this was made clear. Captains/Leaders are usually the CoC specialists.
Yeah captains and leaders are such amazing coc specialists.

So much so that Bumflamingo who's of cd lineage and a special pirate, Chinjao who rivaled Garp and leads a nation, and Kidd -the supposed Luffy's only real rival (equipped with temu coc haki), can't compete with Zoro's level which he uses unconsciously.

Crazy.
 
#12
In all fairness the requirements for CoC have always been shaky at best

Ace didn’t truly want to be the PK or a particularly notable figure. All he wanted to do was figure out whether he deserved to be born or not

Chinjao wanted nothing more than to maintain his family’s wealth and gave up as soon as he could no longer access it

Katakuri only wants to protect his family. Like that’s literally it

I think CoC initially might’ve been something tied to your ambition/goal when Oda came up with the concept for it but by the end of pre timeskip I think he changed it

It’s really just about willpower now
There always be one and unique requirement for CoC : Oda’s whim.
Nothing more, nothing less.
 
#13
Nobody told us that you have to be born with CoC and only way to get it is to inherit it.
There was one comment from Garp saying Luffy was born with it and that's it. Just because Luffy got it from birth doesn't mean getting CoC from birth is only way to get it.
Don Chinjao said there are countless souls on the sea ahead with Quality of King (Chapter 717).
Rayleigh said, "Most People who've made a name for themselves possess this power" (Chapter 597).
You are purposefully avoiding these statements.
 
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