Powers & Abilities Oden mastered Enma before he was 18. Why did he not unlock advCoC until after he was 38

ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

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We see Oden use Enma to cut the mountain God with no problems and he was 18 years old in that scene.

we also see Oden’s encounter Roger where he had no idea what Roger was doing and when he witnessed the Roger vs Whitebeard clash he had clearly never seen AdvCoC. He was 32 in this scene.

The one and only time we can say Oden even used AdvCoC was when he scarred Kaido, he was 38 in that scene.

how come it took Oden 20 years post mastering Enma to ever use AdvCoC?

This is a question specifically for the people who believe Enma gives people AdvCoC. Or is responsible for AdvCoC. Or affects CoC in anyway. Why wasn’t Enma affecting Oden’s CoC for 20 years? Yet Enma Instantaneously gave Zoro AdvCoC one panel after he mastered it, according to some people.
 
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Afroking

Afroking

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Different application of flowing Conquerors.
Kamusari extends beyond the sword.
Never seen a clash between Conquerors with imbued conquerors in their weapons.


Wano never taught him things about anything beyond basic ryou. Hell till today Ashura till the day he died thought conquerors was some trick .
Not knowing the complete know-how doesn't mean you don't have the ability as whole..

Pig attack had conquerors based on the sbs...
 
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JoNdule

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ImmaIvanoM said:
We see Oden use Enma to cut the mountain God with no problems and he was 18 years old in that scene.

we also see Oden’s encounter Roger where he had no idea what Roger was doing and when he witnessed the Roger vs Whitebeard clash he had clearly never seen AdvCoC. He was 32 in this scene.

The one and only time we can say Oden even used AdvCoC was when he scarred Kaido, he was 38 in that scene.

how come it took Oden 20 years post mastering Enma to ever use AdvCoC?

This is a question specifically for the people who believe Enma gives people AdvCoC. Or is responsible for AdvCoC. Or affects CoC in anyway. Why wasn’t Enma affecting Oden’s CoC for 20 years? Yet Enma Instantaneously gave Zoro AdvCoC one panel after he mastered it, according to some people.
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Enma made Zoro unlock his CoC
Oden didn't need enma force him to unlock his CoC and CoA
 
Salah WG

Salah WG

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Saying Enma Powered-Up Zoro by making him Use CoC Coating
Is same as saying Kaidou Powered-Up Luffy by making him realize He can Coat his CoC

Oda simply didn't want to make Zoro realize He can use Adv. CoC in the same way Luffy realized it
So He made Enma act like that to force Zoro to

It's more accurate to say Enma was Key for Luffy to Powering-Up just like Kaidou Fight was Luffy's Key to it
But Enma Struggle & Kaidou Fight aren't Power-Ups Themselves, They are just Experiences
 
ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

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Afroking said:
Different application of flowing Conquerors.
Kamusari extends beyond the sword.
Never seen a clash between Conquerors with imbued conquerors in their weapons.


Wano never taught him things about anything beyond basic ryou. Hell till today Ashura till the day he died thought conquerors was some trick .
Not knowing the complete know-how doesn't mean you don't have the ability as whole..

Pig attack had conquerors based on the sbs...
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Who told you the pig attack was CoC?

And how come Zoro could use CoC blasts immediately after unlocking AdvCoC but you’re saying Oden know AdvCoC for 20 years and had never seen a CoC blast in his life
 
Afroking

Afroking

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ImmaIvanoM said:
Who told you the pig attack was CoC?

And how come Zoro could use CoC blasts immediately after unlocking AdvCoC but you’re saying Oden know AdvCoC for 20 years and had never seen a CoC blast in his life
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SBS 100:

Q: I pretend to do Divine Departure and Tougenshirataki (Paradise Waterfall) at kindergarten. Can I be strong?

Oda: Be careful not to use too much Conqueror's!
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Zoro was forced at the moment because he was going to lose his swords and was elevated even further.

Oden didn't have to. He was never in that kind of trouble in his life.
 
ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

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Afroking said:
Zoro was forced at the moment because he was going to lose his swords and was elevated even further.

Oden didn't have to. He was never in that kind of trouble in his life.
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wait, the scabbards did Paradise waterfall too… And that didn’t have any CoC in it

so it’s very possible for Oden to have used Paradise waterfall with no CoC against the boar and then use it with CoC against Kaido… Especially since there’s no black lightning when he used it on the Boar and there is a bunch of Black lightning when he used it on Kaido

this SBS doesn’t randomly prove that Paradise waterfall can only be done with CoC when we saw it can in fact be done without CoC

Oden was severely fucked up when he fought Ashura douji for a full night…

Are you saying the reason Zoro can do CoC blasts immediately after unlocking CoC and Oden was flabbergasted by CoC blasts 15 years after mastering Enma is because Oden simply didn’t try do them?

also technically you do know that Oden has never used CoC blasts ever then… Are you saying current Zoro surpassed Oden by using CoC blasts because Oden has never actually used them?
 
Thunderbolt

Thunderbolt

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The sword inherited Oden’s haki after death and bestowed it upon Zoro to drastically boost him up, that’s where his CoC came from and why Kaido felts Oden’s presence

magic cursed sword buffs are real
 
Lor D. Coast

Lor D. Coast

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Zoro's resolve (flashback) was what made him finally accept that he is a King, coating came naturally since Mihawk taught him how to flow his haki.
Maybe Oden didn't know he had conqueror's haki until Roger and Ray showed him how to use it.:josad:
 
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