momoshiki, He faced naruto and sasuke at the same time where delta just fought naruto who was noted to been holding back by alot
Delta legit got overpowered by one odama rasengan, That's trash
Momoshiki escaped chibaku tensei by busting it open and had summons that could wrestle down bjuu mode naruto, Something delta certainly couldt do considering how bad kcm2 naruto wrecked her
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Og delta is the same delta as later in the boruto manga/anime, amando just reprogrammed her to be loyal to konoha
it's the same character with the same power
Yeah, I've seen these arguments many times, and it's always interpretation based since the statements are ambiguous.
My interpretation for "ability" is more so in reference to Ninjutsu which we obviously do know Naruto surpasses her in as he defeats her with a Ninjutsu based attack{I.E The Rasengan}. However, in Taijutsu they were almost completely equal as you've seen in chapter 32.
As for the second statement, I have a few problems with it. One being a mistranslation, if you notice the scan it actually says "wentto" rather than "went to", it also isn't exactly what Naruto says. He says that it could've been easier if he attempted to kill her.
Most people try to use this statement to suggest that he was holding back the entire fight. This simply doesn't need to be the case because he notes that he was going all-out in their Taijutsu exchange{Majority of the fight}, and how it could've been in reference to the Rasengan.
As for the Code statement, I heavily disagree with it being in reference to power outside of hax. To elaborate, we know Boro himself isn't that physically strong, he gets beaten up by the kids in many occasions, and gets his body blown up on some.
I think the statement was referring to his hax{I.E Virus and Regen} being potent against Naruto, since hand to hand fighting is what Naruto excels at. Delta isn't someone suited to fight Naruto, whereas Boro being a cunning fighter when utilizing his virus's more effective.
Boro on average shouldn't be remotely close to Delta physically as the kids should be far inferior to Delta, but scale above Boro
I've seen that video already actually. I agree with Six's position at least when it comes to the manga.
Seth was more so arguing why it could go either way.
Og delta is the same delta as later in the boruto manga/anime, amando just reprogrammed her to be loyal to konoha
it's the same character with the same power
As for the second statement, I have a few problems with it. One being a mistranslation, if you notice the scan it actually says "wentto" rather than "went to", it also isn't exactly what Naruto says. He says that it could've been easier if he attempted to kill her.
Most people try to use this statement to suggest that he was holding back the entire fight. This simply doesn't need to be the case because he notes that he was going all-out in their Taijutsu exchange
As for the Code statement, I heavily disagree with it being in reference to power outside of hax. To elaborate, we know Boro himself isn't that physically strong, he gets beaten up by the kids in many occasions, and gets his body blown up on some.
Six fanboy
Come on, you really going to talk of feats versus statements when your just fine ignoring momoshiki feats for his statements or sasori's feats for his statements
I mean if were going feats versus statements then would you agree momoshiki is genin or kage lv?
If not shut up as you clearly dont care about the standard and only are arguing to defend your idol's retarded argument as you pretty much stated after the fact, ''I actually watched the video'' Parrots claims straight from the video and expects me not to notice
Watch him go but sasori is not sakura lv and momoshiki is not genin lv, Because of statements even though im just making this claim to show how hypocritical his feats versus statements position would be
Come on, you really going to talk of feats versus statements when your just fine ignoring momoshiki feats for his statements or sasori's feats for his statements
Watch him go but sasori is not sakura lv and momoshiki is not genin lv, Because of statements even though im just making this claim to show how hypocritical his feats versus statements position would be
I mean, Naruto was beating the crap outta her while holding back (yet he was still strong enough to "control" her as stated by Kawaki). Meanwhile Momoshiki was in a 2v1 giving both Naruto and Sasuke a hard time despite them going all out.
Never said, it's just his ninjutsu
The manga > your interpretation/headcanon
Consistent with the fact, he was beating her up in hand to hand effortlessly overpowering her
verbatim was kicking her around like the useless tin can, she is
She's supposed to be so strong yet even the likes of boruto can tank her attacks, Almost she's fodder who naruto can one shot
Cant prove that naruto was stronger, it's just you and six's stupid headcanon
him going all out was just a lie, he verbatim said that he held back as to not kill her
The point was not about, Momoshiki's power
It was about the hypocrisy of your argument
You fandom types are so predictable, I said you would attack the genin lv momoshiki claim instead of just addressing the hypocrisy had with feats vs statements but im right as always ofc
I mean, Naruto was beating the crap outta here while holding back (yet he was still strong enough to "control" her as stated by Kawaki). Meanwhile Momoshiki was in a 2v1 giving both Naruto and Sasuke a hard time despite them going all out.
Never said, it's just his ninjutsu
The manga > your interpretation/headcanon
Consistent with the fact, he was beating her up in hand to hand effortlessly overpowering her
verbatim was kicking her around like the useless tin can, she is
She's supposed to be so strong yet even the likes of boruto can tank her attacks, Almost she's fodder who naruto can one shot
Cant prove that naruto was stronger, it's just you and six's stupid headcanon
him going all out was just a lie, he verbatim said that he held back as to not kill her
Context was he held back as to not kill her so he can interrogate her
It's the same in both scans so yea, it's a nitpick
He let her hit him, he was acting
The point was not about, Momoshiki's power
It was about the hypocrisy of your argument
You fandom types are so predictable, I said you would attack the genin lv momoshiki claim instead of just addressing the hypocrisy had with feats vs statements but im right as always ofc
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Yea, Delta simps are just stupid
Where delta got whipped around by base form naruto
Momoshiki's golem summon was on par with kyubi avatar
Kyubi avatar >>> kcm2 naruto >> base naruto >>>> delta
It also never mentions that it was in reference to every single combat skill that Naruto and Delta both share as well. That's why i refer to the statement as ambiguous since the statement just says "ability" without giving us any extra context.
Ability is simply a vague word. Is it ability in regards to Taijutsu, Ninjutsu, Hax? We can't say for certain, but we can come to a logical conclusion{interpretation} off what we know.
I'll explain....
We know that Naruto was battling her equally, both were capable of tagging each other, damaging each other, reacting to each other. Boruto himself thinks that there's no room for him to step in and interfere as they were both too powerful.
Delta also beats uo Naruto on multiple occasions in chapter 32. You claim he's holding back, yet he's allowing her to hit him, but also dodging????
Another thing is that he himself is huffing and puffing after punching Delta towards the end indicating that he definitely was exerting a lot of energy when fighting her which is consistent with him mentioning that he's going all-out.
Another instance of you not reading what I said. I mentioned how me notes that he's going all-out "too" implying he's now trying, and he also transforms in response to Delta mentioning her use of scientific ninja tools.
That isn't context, that's what said in the same panel. I'm reffering to context indicating if it was in reference to the whole fight or just the rasengan scene.
Look at the next few scans, she sees through his deception. He himself acknowledges that trick isn't going to work hence he doesn't use it anymore.
I just gave you an example on how both scans differed, a nit pick is when I address an irrelevant portion of your argument. Problem is I addressed the main point, and the translation.
You fandom types are so predictable, I said you would attack the genin lv momoshiki claim instead of just addressing the hypocrisy had with feats vs statements but im right as always ofc
I mean, Naruto was beating the crap outta her while holding back (yet he was still strong enough to "control" her as stated by Kawaki). Meanwhile Momoshiki was in a 2v1 giving both Naruto and Sasuke a hard time despite them going all out.
That never happens, both were going all-out as stated by Naruto. Also, Momoshiki gets body-slammed by only Naruto, in-fact he struggles to put down Base Naruto, and Delta performs better.
lol
If you say strength you talk about leg strength,arm strength and everything else included as your talking in generalizations
Unless there is a specific given or indicated, you go with the generalized meaning again you wouldt take it's gotten late to mean 12 at night specifically now would you?
This is you trying to get a gotcha cause you think your smart and your not, While these dumb questions may work in vc where the person has to react asap same does not apply in text as your allowed to think about what you say for a bit before saying it.
Imagine trying a slime ball vc debater question in a text debate, What a troll
We know that Naruto was battling her equally, both were capable of tagging each other, damaging each other, reacting to each other. Boruto himself thinks that there's no room for him to step in and interfere as they were both too powerful.
You cant explain anything, your point is all rheotropic and narrative
Where, I cite my sources and argue from fact you argue from interpretation ie headcanon
Eg
Naruto was not battling her equally, He was whipping her around like a toy already gave you for the citing for this but you can keep making shit up on headcanon/interpretation
Ether back your dumb claims and stop pinging me with your nonsense ether or
Clearly not that exhausted, Your cherry picking scenes so hard ignoring the context of the following events just to stan for a fictional anime girl how pathethic
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Also lol at that being a bruise, he has the same blur marks on his hair
Is his damn hair bruised, What a idiot
Boruto is shown as fine even later in the fight so evidently he took no damage ie tanked it
Watch him take this scan and argue out of context with it even tho kawaki says after the fact, hokage completely surpasses delta
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Also lol at that being a bruise, he has the blur marks on his hair
Is his damn hair bruised, What a idiot
Boruto is shown as fine even later in the fight so evidently he took no damage ie tanked it
Watch him take this scan and argue out of context with it even tho kawaki says after the fact, hokage completely surpasses delta
Nope, when I say I'm stronger than X, It doesn't have to mean that I'm refferring to lifting weights type strength. I can be talking about a combat situation between me and X.
In this case, he says "ability" and that him in conjunction with his ability surpasses her? Surpasses her in what regard? Because I can agree he surpasses her with Ninjutsu.
I don't see a problem with him being stronger than her in Ninjutsu, the only problem I have is with regards to Taijutsu.
Combat suited definition of ability or abilities : "talent, skill, or proficiency in a particular area."
As I said earlier, it's a singular term so it's one skill. What is that skill? The only one that logically makes sense is Ninjutsu. The only coherent one.
Nope, it's not a regular question. It was meant to be rhetorical.
Naruto was not battling her equally, He was whipping her around like a toy already gave you for the citing for this but you can keep making shit up on headcanon/interpretation
Clearly not that exhausted, Your cherry picking scenes so hard ignoring the context of the following events just to stan for a fictional anime girl how pathethic
Clearly not that exhausted, Your cherry picking scenes so hard ignoring the context of the following events just to stan for a fictional anime girl how pathethic
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