Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1001 Spoilers Discussion

[Cinera]

The 3 captains are back on their feet and attack Kaidou together. Kaidou tells Big Mom to wait since he wants to see their power in full. Luffy uses “Gomu Gomu no Kong Gun”, Law uses “Takt” to drop tons of rocks on Kaidou and Kid uses a new attack called “Punk Rotten: Punk Vise”, a badass robot with skull face that crushes Kaidou with both hands.

Meanwhile, Big Mom is laughing from above and turns Napoleon into a flaming sword. Kaidou emerges from the rocks in dragon form. In an amazing double spread, Kaidou in dragon form and Big Mom with her flaming sword face the 5 Supernova.

Unless I'm mistaken, there's no confirmation that the Supernova captains did any damage at all to Kaido?

Zoro and Killer attack Kaidou together. Zoro uses “Rengoku Oni Giri” and Killer uses “Zanshu Claw” (Beheading Claw). Kaidou seems to take a bit of damage but still smiles and compliments them.

The underlings on the other hand were able to damage him.



But go on, tell me more how this is an L for Zoro because he and Killer were able to successfully damage Kaido instead of making gag faces with Kidd or failing to damage Kaido with Law. I'm waiting for you guys.
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[GreenEggsAHam]

Notice how Zoro won't make the same mistake as his teacher Mihawk who hasn't clashed with enough top tiers.

Zoro will come out of Wano after clashing with 2 Yonko, including WSC Kaido, which Mihawk hasn't seem to do.

Mihawk fans bout to cry once they find out, if shanks is in that silhouette

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Yeah Maybe Oda is telling us that Kaido, BM, WB, Roger, Oden, Rocks and Shanks are around the same level anyway Mihawk is not there really shows that he is not that strong lol

He was never there lol

This chapter also pushes Garp/Sengoku down which was obvious
But i still believe Akainu and marine legends can stalemate or fight kaido to high diff

This chapter confirms that Admirals didn't do a thing to kaido
Mihawk is just not there.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

@Cinera

The Enma discussion is highly speculative when talking about how much stronger it made Zoro.

At the very least, virtue of using Enma is likely that his Haki control has improved in order to even keep it from getting sapped out with very swing. So there should be a concrete gain in terms of that alone.

I will argue though that when looking at this in good faith, it's likely that he already received a significant power up.

We see for example that Zoro's training with Enma paralels Luffy's training with advanced CoA, so i think it's fair to say that they are intended to be comparable boosts in lack of any other significant indicator.

Luffy will improve his mastery and grow stronger in this fight, and so will Zoro. They have room to improve but that does not mean that they have not already improved significantly.

 

[Seraphoenix]

Bro Shanks being put in the same tier as Rocks

Father and son together. Sounds about right with the three brothers paired together.

 

[Winsmoke Sanji]

I think Kaido is enjoying being challenged. He must let a few blows hit him

The summary said he told Big Mom to not back him up since he's gauging their power. My interpretation of that is that he is just letting himself get hit

 

[Fuckthis3]

If KID didn't have kaido damage shook struggle a lil or push far back then he still Featless

 

[KAIDO D. STRONGER]

“So I’ll just let Akainu destroy my ship then”-Whitebeard, above Shanks but far weaker than Akainu.

Realize that they were different scenarios?
Like, what is the point of WB using your DF in a CLASH?
He would probably destroy his ship that was drifting offshore, with no ground to step on.
It was just a PHYSICAL CLASH with HAKI.

 

[Lebrent]

Best panel in the chapter according to you Lebrent?

that page with luffy and shadows, kaido smiling and all double spreads at the end

 

[zzShinichi]

Captainnova Trio my ass

 

[KaidoBigBoy]

I also don't think that the shadows were the people who defeated kaido. But the people he considers worthy of fighting with him

 

[Kromage911]

Imagine the mayhem in this forum if it was Mihawk in the background instead of Shanks.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

But the tools he mentioned don't require sanji accepting his family name,the family that hated him they were just tools whose creator could have easily remained unknown.

He didn’t accept his family name. He is using them and making them his own. He’s not Germa, but he can no longer deny who he is. He said himself his pride can’t get in the way of saving those close to him.

 

[kurwa]

Unless I'm mistaken, there's no confirmation that the Supernova captains did any damage at all to Kaido?




The underlings on the other hand were able to damage him.



But go on, tell me more how this is an L for Zoro because he and Killer were able to successfully damage Kaido instead of making gag faces with Kidd or failing to damage Kaido with Law. I'm waiting for you guys.
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yes
Enma and Killer damaged Kaido

 

[Isaac Netero]

If Luffy isn't using adv CoA on G4 Oda is already nerfing the guy....

 

[Finalbeta]

Sorry if I've been it wasnt my intention. It was the words I found to express my mindset. Couldnt find any better I guess

Your mindset is wrong but I'm not putting effort to change it. I'm not particularly intrigued.

 

[ZoroMazino]

that page with luffy and shadows, kaido smiling and all double spreads at the end

What about Zoro panels, are they good ?

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

Doesn't Big Mom have Ryou? it must fit in the range of these "some".

big mom hasn't shown advanced haki

 

[Peroroncino]

He didn’t accept his family name. He is using them and making them his own. He’s not Germa, but he can no longer deny who he is. He said himself his pride can’t get in the way of saving those close to him.

yes not yet since he still likes them enough to use it.
And he would easily let women get in the way of him saving his crew.

 

[Lee Ba Shou]

Realize that they were different scenarios?
Like, what is the point of WB using your DF in a CLASH?
He would probably destroy his ship that was drifting offshore, with no ground to step on.
It was just a PHYSICAL CLASH with HAKI.

That’s all Shanks has bro. Just his physicals and Haki. Akainu fought on par with Gura Whitebeard without taking his hands out of his pockets lol. Akainu is far stronger than Marineford Whitebeard while Shanks is only on par with base Whitebeard.