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Debatable. Luffy oneshoted Monster point with an elephant gun, but did not do the same with P1. Increasing the duration of the monster point does not add strength, unless Caesar somehow also strengthened it.
Neither was Chopper who was controlling the monster point, which was rampant. So it's not the same, Chopper survived several attacks by prometheus, he is definitely a tank as good as the tobiroppos
 
Neither was Chopper who was controlling the monster point, which was rampant. So it's not the same, Chopper survived several attacks by prometheus, he is definitely a tank as good as the tobiroppos
Eh, that was mindless monster point so there was no willpower to go on after monster point took a hit.
I don't argue. But is he any weaker when he's rage? He's just wasting his energy out of control.
He grabbed a huge block of ice in the air and threw it at his opponent.
 
I don't argue. But is he any weaker when he's rage? He's just wasting his energy out of control.
He grabbed a huge block of ice in the air and threw it at his opponent.
Oda built his entire power system on willpower.

Mindless means chopper doesn't have any will so when he gets hit he can't will himself to power through
 
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