What will happen till end of Wano?


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i can't stand anymore people with mighty ancestor, mighty beings in the family etc.

It undermines everything.

So Zoro is strong by himself or because of mighty DNA, he was some kind of new Ryuma etc.

It's lame.

Just tell me a story of a random guy with big guts who wants to be strong and manage to become the best.

Zoro was miles better being some child in a village, working his ass off, bond by Kuina oath and legacy.



Yeah so it means that Ushimaru is Zoro ancestor and conveniently they both have a damaged eye.....
And Ryuma being Ushimaru ancestor he is Zoro one too.

So fun....
What does ancestry have to do with hard work and working your ass off? Being related to someone great doesn't automatically make you great, you still have to work and train yourself lol.
 
yes it is totally my point.

If someone like Ryuma with no ancestors, no magic DNA etc beame a monster, it means that a normal person with enough will and skills can become a monster too. No need for Zoro to be linked with Ryuma by blood. He can be linked with Ryuma by sword, skills, achievements but by blood ? like if t was destiny ? its lame.
Don't worry. Ryuma's blood is normal. Goat blood. He is a human being not a D lineage or King's race. :cheers:
 

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Lazy is the way
only ryuma is that strong/famous from that lineage.
yeah but it's enough. If Zoro was only linked to ushimaru i would have liked it but so be it, but it's the Ryuma link that is maddening.

We all knew that Zoro would become the new Ryuma of this gen. And just like that his endgame is also a former family member. Youpi.....
 
It’s not a decent distinction. Queen doesn’t even think what Sanji does is comparable to King and Queen hasn’t even seen Luffy’s red Roc fuck up kaido

Like what would Queen say after seeing Red Roc?

my theory stands.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/elemental-race-abilities.16554/unread

Oda wants to do this thing where certain races have certain elemental abilities which other races can just learn or develop but never to the extent of the original race

The thing that’s interesting with Sanji this chapter is the Raid suit doing something to him. Which we know has nothing to do with his fire abilities since he had those way before the raid suit
who ever said that red roc is only a fire based attack? Acoa is also in the mix and the fire sanji and king generate haven't been liked to haki at all... red rock is a whole different thing.. its miniature version is no different luffy has to go gear 2 to generate fire which isn't spontaneous that in of itself is a distinction from sanji and king's fire .

And oda wanting to go the route you mention is honestly alright even i ahve considered this assumption but the evidence at hand doesn't make that plausible.. judge himself said that he gave his children abilities that can be enhanced through training...,but we never knew what sanji's ability was .. but now this development proves multitude of things.. which include how sanji can generate fire spontaneously (which seems unlikely to Queen unless "lineage factor"), sanji needing friction at first to generate the fire and even then in enies lobby he linked it to his personal sentiments rather than friction itself meaning he wasn't able to fully use DJ or his flames handily due to him being a failure at first , we still don't know if sanji's main ability was conjuring fire from get got but sanji incorporated it ingenuously in DJ ,this could mean if sanji wasn't a falure and the lineage factor or his genetic alterations werent' sabotaged by his mom he would have has an exceptional control over his flames..but even that doesn't change the fact that he can manipulate them using his emotions and intensify them after the TS so now he has a very versatile control over them .. Queen regards sanji's flames as weak is coz he hasn't seen them go intense well hell even we have to see the extent sanji could take his flames to.. and sanji feeling this way can also indicate that his dormant genes are awakening due to the RS coded to him and the RS may boost his fire just like it enables his siblings to do much more with their suits .


i read your thread and you shouldn't be surprised that i dont' necessarily agree with it .

"Fishman- Fishman karate, Water
- Minks- Electro, electricity
- Giants- Elbaf Spear, Wind
- Tontatta- Plant growth, Earth
- King’s race - fire"



- FMK is a type of martial arts that human can master as well since they are humans but its not race exclusive
- Elbaf's spear is not something inherent to one's race
- Tontatta botany is a skill and expertise thing tho it may be culturally exclusive ..its not an inherent ability
- we have seen many fire based users in one-piece but all have distinctions and contrasts to how they get executed compared to how king and sanji manipulate fire

-Hannyabal uses it on his katana but not on himself
- Pearl from baratie exudes blue flames by instinct when he was in a jungle in his childhood
- Zoro too used it on mr 4 on his blades but not on his body
-luffy has to go gear 2 and exert alot to combust his hand but he cannot in theory do the same in his base

how are they any different from sanji and king you may ask ?

if you refer to the official translation of the latest chapter that there was a race that would "Burst into flames "
the only person we know that has done that sorta thing is sanji via HM and combust his leg into flames something very exclusive to that specific race .
 
Zoro say hi :cheers:

Don't mix him alongside Luffy who got df, meat, joyboy parallel, D lineage, prophercy and Sanji's dna modified, rs, cyborg that are strong without training.

Zoro build himself. Unlike luffy and sanji. Especially Sanji. Zoro train hard everyday. :cheers:
Sorry but lifting weights won't make you to cut fire or won't help in taming cursed swords. And Zoro got graded swords which is DF or any other equivalent in one piece world afterall you can't cut mountains, icebergs with ordinary swords . Don't act as if Zoro made ordinary sword into graded sword.
 
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