Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1023 Spoilers Discussion

[Finalbeta]

I think Mihawk is best on swordsmanship game alone
and the rarest power on world isn't part of any fight style

but again
you think Fujitora > Kaido
so your power levels are wired

Fujitora is not necessarily stronger than Kaido at all. Or even as strong.

 

[MarineHQ]

I really can't see them winning against Big Mom. They don't have the capacity to do it. Kidd doesn't even have the King's Haki developed and even if he ever did learn it he couldn't use it as well as Big Mom. If there is no outside help they won't win

Neither do i but them doing jack shit to BM also feels wrong tbh. At least turn her into O-lin

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Yea and after this chapter it gets even more concrete.... (not that it needs to)

There is no such thing as a pure top tier swordsman in the onepiece

 

[yorosenpai]

Law and Kid have to accomplish something against BM otherwise their performance in this raid will really be pretty bad, considering how Sanji and Zoro will defeat King and Queen

i see Oda playing the same game he did for Big Mom crew, they got kick into the sea twice.
The same plan was for Big Mom, but they failed it. I believe that the fight will conclude with Big Mom dropping in the sea.
Oda like to bring back previous plot point. And the fact that Law and Kidd and hopefully killer were involved with the plan of splitting Big Mom and Kaido is a point that we cant forget. They almost succeeded if only for Kaido.
The same thing I see it for the flying dragon blaze that missed the first time vs Kaido.

 

[T.D.A]

So If someone like Shanks doesn't identifies as a swordsman Zoro musn't surpass him(?).

Zoro won't actively seek him out, he can still surpass Shanks obviously.

 

[Geo]

Queen is the Only Zoan that has openly used COA to defend himself rather than his DF durability..

Because he isn't exactly durable. Chopper drew blood from him and Sanji base kicks drew blood....even though both didn't actually do any real damage

 

[Shanal]

so I guess DF is PART of swordsmanship as well cause Law and Fujitora use DF ...
not every single power that a swordsman can use is PART of swordsmanship

any Mihawk CoC debate is fan fiction at this point (but I'm willing to give him lighting CoC at BEST)
but compare to Shanks ... he is A LEVEL below him

Shanks wins CoC
Mihawk wins CoA

and CoC > CoA

the sooner you guys accept this OBVIOUS fact the better
WSS led all of you to a dark corner
run !

A DF can is its own individual ability, but ofc you can still be a SM with DF power. Yet you can also be a non-SM with sword + DF if your fighting style is based off of DF more.

But CoC is straight up innate power like CoA, CoO, speed, strength, etc. It does not constitute a new fighting style; it only serves to boost your fighting style. He it brawler or swordsman. It's ridiculous to say CoC can exclude someone from being a SM when it came make a SM much powerful AP-wise with sword, just like CoA.

 

[Indigo]

There is no such thing as a pure top tier swordsman in the onepiece

complete fan creation just because they wanted to downplay Mihawk, which is sad

 

[Law-sama]

Sanji literally blocked this guy's kick
GODDAMN

 

[Red Admiral]

What are you even talking about?
also, where did you get the info that Vista is a higher "sword master" than Fujitora and Law?

never mind what I'm talking about ... stay with Mihawk until the end ... I'll see you a year later
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feat told us that
none of them have even half of his feat
this is a man who CAN stop Mihawk ... said 2 VC

 

[Geo]

Kawamatsu: Boss Hyogoro...
Kawamatsu: When Hiyori decided to give "Enma" to that man...
Kawamatsu: ...there is a reason I couldn't bring myself to completely stop her...!!
Goats are always easily recognized this should also bury any bs he did not earn that sword if even Kawamatsu felt this way

What is surprising is why aren't they hyping Sanji too. Seems Zoro is getting all the hype this chapter

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

complete fan creation just because they wanted to downplay Mihawk, which is sad

Extremely sad

 

[Indigo]

never mind what I'm talking about ... stay with Mihawk until the end ... I'll see you a year later
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feat told us that
none of them have even half of his feat
this is a man who CAN stop Mihawk ... said 2 VC

can you please answer that stuff about Vista?

where did you see that Vista is considered a Higher Sword Master than Fujitora or Law?

 

[Red Admiral]

But CoC is straight up innate power like CoA, CoO, speed, strength, etc. It does not constitute a new fighting style; it only serves to boost your fighting style. He it brawler or swordsman. It's ridiculous to say CoC can exclude someone from being a SM when it came make a SM much powerful AP-wise with sword, just like CoA.

Ad.CoC is rarest power of the world
saying "this is part of a fight style" is fucking ridiculous

 

[mad monk]

Yeah but it makes zoro whole journey forced. Zoro got his scar not because his own struggle but only to match Ryuma one etc.. And « weirdly » the two strongest swordsmen in history had a scar on the eye and were from the same family.

I don’t like that. Those parallels kill the fun and the originality of the adventure and the authenticity of the characters

Ryuma was a guardian, stay in Wano as a protector. Zoro is adventurer, went all over the world as pirates.
Ryuma was using one-sword fighting style whilst Zoro is three-swords style which will also be the founder of its style.

So Zoro still get his own originality here. Also we ain't actually seeing shit about what was Ryuma done in the past on the other hand we will see everything from Zoro. How that relation ruin the fun? With/Without Ryuma we'll know what Zoro will become in the end anyway.

 

[Hicham]

Garbage fake hype series, we all know plot armored good guys will win so please just finish all these garbage fights in one page, nothing even to look forward to in them since there is no choreography but powe r ranger explosion battle style aka single frame slash aka fake hype and that's one this whole series: fake hype, explains why the vast majority of comments are things that arent even happening, ppl getting exited over their imaginary scenarios huh what a load of
Oh and looks like the f6 are down like??? They cant stand back up? ONE PIECE IS GREAT

 

[Red Admiral]

can you please answer that stuff about Vista?
where did you see that Vista is considered a Higher Sword Master than Fujitora or Law?

again ... feat told us that ... his SBS referred to him as one of best swordsman in the world
Law or Fuji have nothing compare to that

 

[Indigo]

Garbage fake hype series, we all know plot armored good guys will win so please just finish all these garbage fights in one page, nothing even to look forward to in them since there is no choreography but powe r ranger explosion battle style aka single frame slash aka fake hype and that's one this whole series: fake hype, explains why the vast majority of comments are things that arent even happening, ppl getting exited over their imaginary scenarios huh what a load of
Oh and looks like the f6 are down like??? They cant stand back up? ONE PIECE IS GREAT

If you hate it that much, why are you wasting your time coming into a forum dedicated to this series, making an account and posting this type of shit?

wouldn't you be better off just moving on?

 

[Shanal]

Ad.CoC is rarest power of the world
saying "this is part of a fight style" is fucking ridiculous

Yet it's still a haki. Luffy using it would still remain a brawler with rubber abilities. Hypothetical Sanji using it would still remain a kicker. They won't turn into something else.

Shanks still uses it to boost the AP of his SWORD HITS.

It's a form of haki and no matter how powerful or rare it is, the role of haki is to ultimately boost your combat, not create a new form of combat. Downright ridiculous to imply otherwise; what is this, the old stupid hakiman debate?

Please...

 

[Peroroncino]

The raid suit is pretty much like a bullet proof vest, it takes damage where as the user takes little to no damage

Show me the damage