Zoro vs King CoC Clash?!


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But he was a second rate général while Renpa / Ouki are like WB/Roger
Powerlevel wise WB is like Renpa / Ouki.

But character wise, he seems to be closer to Mou Gou.
Both are losers from bygone era, Mou Gou didn't become Qin's 6GG (but his son passed it), WB didn't become PK (and wanted his son Ace to become 1 but Ace died)
Both raised sons but not the MC, WB raised Ace, Marco the loser and Jozu. Mou Gou raised Mou Bu, and had Ou Sen and Kanki as his subordinates.
 
Same for Luffy , he just did 2 punches wich he just shock off , i know you are butthurt because Zoro outperformed Luffy without having FS or Internal destruction or Black lightning CoC
Mf no zoro didn't outperform luffy at all. I get why you think that, luffy is always in the spotlight so you don't really notice him where as oda just gave zoro a time to shine in the new world...
 
Full power Kaido >~ full power BM
Sweet Commanders ~ Calamities
BMP Pirates >~ Beast pirates, minus captains
Captains can solo their crews so they basically comprise a considerable portion of their crew power

Factually, Yonkos are in deadlock with each other. Their overall forces cancel each other out and any win is extreme diff. No single YC1 is beating two or more on the other YC side, any attempt to think through that is outright contradicting the manga narrative.
They don’t use logic here. They have characters they like and they are the strongest and toughest.
 

stairs-kun

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Can y'all take a step back and see what you are all saying?

Let's assume there's a war between the beast pirates and big mom pirates.
What you are all saying, is that while Kaido is stalling Big Mom, King alone will beat all of her 3 Sweet Generals.
What's left?
An army that was unable to deal with a single musketeer Sulong, while Jack fought an entire army of them AND WON. Losing only to the dukes.
And Queen, who's even STRONGER than Jack, that would completely FODDERIZE the rest of the Big Mom PIrates that consist of fighters no stronger than Flying 6 equivalents.
And the Beast Pirates STILL have the Flying 6.

The story makes it pretty clear that a fight between the Yonkos would render the victor's army so fucking destroyed, that they would be vulnerable to other's attacks. But with King, ALONE, being able, not only to stall, BUT ACTUALLY BEAT all of BM's STRONGEST 3 fighters, and the rest of the Beast Pirates being stacked with people that can fuck up the rest of her army, it doesn't feel like the Beast Pirates would be in a position of "vulnerability", no?

"King beats all 3 Sweet Commanders" is one of the most ABSURD takes I've ever seen on this site, and believe me when I say I've seen some absurd shit already.

Y'all really, REALLY have Z-E-R-O notion of strategy, maneuverability, etc. For y'all, these characters are like fucking video game bosses that require some minimal attack stat in order to be able to deal damage. Being 1 stat short is the same as being 100 stat short.

I find it quite amazing, really.
Fucking scabbards can hurt and pierce Kaido, but GOD FORBID if characters like the Sweet Commanders can do it as well, or hurt King.
We all know that Kinemon>>>>>>>>>>>Katakuri, AMIRITE?
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Let's look at the facts:

1. Kaido has the Strongest army in the World. Big Mom doesn't at all, that's why she was hell bent on getting the marriage with the Giant's Race. Giant's who are consistently hyped by Oda.

2. The story(One Piece) doesn't make that clear, it's just something spade said in the Ace novel, something that should be taken with salt considering Spade also implied Shanks was the weakest emperor, which by Kaido's logic, isn't true.

3. King is a monster. His feats are rivaling his captain. We also know Kaido felt extremely comfortable going to Marineford and Whitebeard with King alone by his side. That alone speaks to the absurd strength of King.

4. Yes, Kaido's army would wash Big Mom's. Why? Because Big Mom barely looks for strength in her crew, she looks for races. Kaido is looking for strength. The difference in their crew would and should be noticeable, it's simple math.

5. No one said it would be easy-easy for King to dispose of them, but they have nothing against him, so it would be easy. Their strongest commander's hax and awakening is easily dismantled by King's speed and fire alone. Smoothie and Cracker are no challenge. Another thing, the sweet commanders are not relative at all, their stats don't compete. Katakuri's speed is his strongest suit, and King still has the advantage there.

6. Cracker can probably cut Kaido, or maybe even Smoothie, or Kat. But we aren't talking about Kaido, we are talking about King, the guy with the defense that took a high-tier move from Zoro without a sweat. Hurting Kaido is easy as long as you have the technique, King can easily withstand techniques that hurt Kaido.

And to add to that, having the technique to hurt Kaido doesn't mean you have the AP to do competent damage. +1000 G4 Luffy still could only deal shallow damage, and he's stronger than Kat. 1000 or 1010 Luffy aren't doing anything to King. It's not hard to see why King dog walks dogtooth and his siblings. It's really not.
 
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stairs-kun

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Marco didn't used CoC either and damaged King. Just because Zori chan can't do it without Enma magical powers, doesn't mean other YC can't.
It's fucking ridiculous and pathetic how the same people were saying King is a fodder to Zoro, when the second was on the roof top, and how King would get one shoted/low diffed by Zoro, now once this fight happened and Zoro gets his ass beat, they wank King to oblivion. Zorofans have no shame at all lmao
You people bring up Marco like Zoro didn't "hurt" King in 1022, more so than Marco. These Marco takes are just shit baits at this point.
 
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