Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1038 Spoilers Discussion
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Lil broski @Gol D. Roger was actually asking you to not be mad at him for saying Zoro can do damage to Kaido not the opposite 
Where is @Queek Hea D Taker at? I thought he was preaching the return of Mammoth boy
Is that why Big Mom was knocked out by Queen and caught. Before then defeated by King with her crew backing her up and almost killed.
Doesn't have attacks above BM? Is that why Zoro scarred Kaido in a weaken state while BM can't scar him at all? Is that why Zoro's first powerful attack against them scared 2 Yonko? Is that why Big Mom acknowledged Zoro strength to cut Kaido?
It's funny how you try to downplay Zoro's acknowledgment from facing Yonkos and fighting a Yonko in a 1v1 when all you ended up doing is just make the other rooftop supernovas look worse.
Luffy acknowledged his attacks were too hollow. Kaido didn't acknowledge his strength until after he fought Luffy for a while and defeated him several times. Law attacks were called tricks. Killer attacks was called annoying. While Kid received zero acknowledgment.
Yes, hakai hurt Zoro but didn't defeat him. Yet, Kid still needed Zoro to save his life and protect him from it. While Kid couldn't even block or counter Ikkoku. Zoro beats Kids.
Doesn't have attacks above BM? Is that why Zoro scarred Kaido in a weaken state while BM can't scar him at all? Is that why Zoro's first powerful attack against them scared 2 Yonko? Is that why Big Mom acknowledged Zoro strength to cut Kaido?
It's funny how you try to downplay Zoro's acknowledgment from facing Yonkos and fighting a Yonko in a 1v1 when all you ended up doing is just make the other rooftop supernovas look worse.
Luffy acknowledged his attacks were too hollow. Kaido didn't acknowledge his strength until after he fought Luffy for a while and defeated him several times. Law attacks were called tricks. Killer attacks was called annoying. While Kid received zero acknowledgment.
Yes, hakai hurt Zoro but didn't defeat him. Yet, Kid still needed Zoro to save his life and protect him from it. While Kid couldn't even block or counter Ikkoku. Zoro beats Kids.
Kidd: Hahaha...for some reason I get the feeling I'm fighting for something else entirely...
@Monkey D Theories man this is absolutely pathetic
Kidd sounds like an absolute beta cuck saying this given his personality
@Monkey D Theories man this is absolutely pathetic
Kidd sounds like an absolute beta cuck saying this given his personality
@Big D. Kaios read this again
I don't really understand people's objection to this
its Kid's character arc
Its not that Kid gave up on being pirate king like a lot of Kid haters pretend. Its that he acknowledges Luffy. He knows Luffy is stronger, which is why he let Luffy take kaido. He still hates kaido and wants kaido to die, but he knows that he himself cannot fulfill this wish, so he passed it on to Luffy. And so part of the reason he wants to bring down big mom is not only to get the fame and glory of toppling a yonko, but also to help Luffy bring down kaido.
This is why he is having a fight to the death with big mom. I don't see why Kid is a beta cuck for acknowledging reality but still going for his dreams of taking down a yonko
its Kid's character arc
Its not that Kid gave up on being pirate king like a lot of Kid haters pretend. Its that he acknowledges Luffy. He knows Luffy is stronger, which is why he let Luffy take kaido. He still hates kaido and wants kaido to die, but he knows that he himself cannot fulfill this wish, so he passed it on to Luffy. And so part of the reason he wants to bring down big mom is not only to get the fame and glory of toppling a yonko, but also to help Luffy bring down kaido.
This is why he is having a fight to the death with big mom. I don't see why Kid is a beta cuck for acknowledging reality but still going for his dreams of taking down a yonko
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Yeah it is deliberate setting up anticipation/hype by him with the silhouettes. Meant to tease us, get us wondering and excited but with how he handled Oden and especially Kawamatsu, it left a really bad taste for me too. Kawamatsu was implied to be this really mysterious badass who could be anyone and such wild theories came out with those constantly menacing eyes we saw for MANY weeks and it turns out to ba random fucking goofy looking kappa who is an underling of Oden lmfao. Sigh.
That makes a lot of sense tbh, he needs to stop and take a breather for real. Collect himself and his thought together, refresh his mind, spirit and body. He must be experiencing so much burnout and exhaustion tbh, I cant even begin to imagine it!
That's really well thought out man, I really like that. Very wise, focused, decisive, clear and such. That pre-planning as much as I hate doing it ironically, would be such a life saver in the long run and benefit the story so much more.
Yeah thats a really good idea with the assistants too. Oh, I love that about focusing on the core characters too and letting the others draw the minor characters. We could have even really done without the gifters or Oda could have asked some other people to draw potential Zoans for him and try to challenge their creativity, talent and skill too.
That's exactly it, well said. Thats probably why Big Mom supposedly eating Carmel and the other kids was also implied and done more symbolically but we're also seeing people losing limbs, Yasuie and Law getting shot to death, Doflamingos backstory, Inu and Neko being mutiliated by Jack at Zou and so on.
I genuinely expected some horror of Big Mom eating someone tbh in the present. Whether it was out of a rampage, revenge or power demonstration or something. She ate her homies but I thought she might end up eating someone somehow sooner or later. Oda gave her acidic saliva and such a menacing, mysterious intro at FMI and really seemed like a menacing, all powerful, mighty, terrifying witch who you don't fuck with, like Baba Yaga or that one from Spirited Away or something. Also typical witches with cauldrons and such ofc
I actually believed Jinbei was going to die tbh, that he would have had his lifespan stolen or dying in a final stand to let the SHs escape or killed offscreen at worst. I'm so glad he wasn't but the fact he escaped BM with no apparent consequences is insane. Although we still don't know what happened to the Sun PIrates and Jinbei was quiet about what happened when the SHs asked him about how he escaped when they reunited at Wano.
BM eating Jinbei would be absolutely horrifying but it would so turn into dark humour with all the sushi and grilled fishes jokes about Jinbei out there lmao.
Big Mom hasn't even killed anyone herself deliberately on-screen except her own family! Unless you count Zepo in the flashback I think?
I completely agree too, that would have been the most horrifying and tragic way to end the arc that we needed.
Sure Germa has lost Yonji and Niji to a book apparently, but it seems like Pudding is going to free them, probably using her DF on Oven and maybe using the wide area v ersion she used to trick the forest homies to get everyone there too? I think it was called Flashback funnily enough?
Pedro only died by suicide even too and he failed to kill Perospero too which just makes it worse. Assuming he is dead too and Will of P didn't save his ass like it did to Pound, that was absolute BS with him.
I've been saying that its not really felt like they've taken on 2 emperors here. WCI still set a horrifying tone with consequences but in Wano, who has really paid the price except Yasuie? WCI still managed to give us a tragic and horrifying tone but not as much as it could and should have too even. Wano has been worse for tat especially Onigashima imo.
Odas handling of Big Mom at Wano and Onigashima except for her flashy and awesome attacks has genuinely been frustrating and upsetting. I thought WCI was bad but at least she truly felt dangerous once she caught up to the SHs and was on the Sunny although she still got trolled by them but also she had that amazing bad song concerto finale and blew up their ship, only for it to be a fakeout and still be fine. We also had another fakeout moment of the ship being blown up at Wano too ofc.
How the Wano half of the SHs are not distraught about Big Mom coming to Wano especially Zoro is beyond me too. Also Franky should be furious about her wrecking the Sunny so badly but nope, nothing!
"The consequences of standing up to an Emperor just by itself alone can already be powerful if Oda execute it right. And OP is not just the fights, there are so many gems of consequences and payoff waiting to be applied properly."
Completely agree. I couldn't have said it better myself. Oda is really fucking up consequences and payoff so badly. He truly has wonderful ideas but far too many and too ambitious and broad and he's struggling on the execution and closure of them. I could probably never produce anything as amazing as he does ofc but its frustrating to see such a truly talented, brutally hard working and dedicated and wise individual sabotage himself and his work so much now.
That makes a lot of sense tbh, he needs to stop and take a breather for real. Collect himself and his thought together, refresh his mind, spirit and body. He must be experiencing so much burnout and exhaustion tbh, I cant even begin to imagine it!
That's really well thought out man, I really like that. Very wise, focused, decisive, clear and such. That pre-planning as much as I hate doing it ironically, would be such a life saver in the long run and benefit the story so much more.
Yeah thats a really good idea with the assistants too. Oh, I love that about focusing on the core characters too and letting the others draw the minor characters. We could have even really done without the gifters or Oda could have asked some other people to draw potential Zoans for him and try to challenge their creativity, talent and skill too.
That's exactly it, well said. Thats probably why Big Mom supposedly eating Carmel and the other kids was also implied and done more symbolically but we're also seeing people losing limbs, Yasuie and Law getting shot to death, Doflamingos backstory, Inu and Neko being mutiliated by Jack at Zou and so on.
I genuinely expected some horror of Big Mom eating someone tbh in the present. Whether it was out of a rampage, revenge or power demonstration or something. She ate her homies but I thought she might end up eating someone somehow sooner or later. Oda gave her acidic saliva and such a menacing, mysterious intro at FMI and really seemed like a menacing, all powerful, mighty, terrifying witch who you don't fuck with, like Baba Yaga or that one from Spirited Away or something. Also typical witches with cauldrons and such ofc
I actually believed Jinbei was going to die tbh, that he would have had his lifespan stolen or dying in a final stand to let the SHs escape or killed offscreen at worst. I'm so glad he wasn't but the fact he escaped BM with no apparent consequences is insane. Although we still don't know what happened to the Sun PIrates and Jinbei was quiet about what happened when the SHs asked him about how he escaped when they reunited at Wano.
BM eating Jinbei would be absolutely horrifying but it would so turn into dark humour with all the sushi and grilled fishes jokes about Jinbei out there lmao.
Big Mom hasn't even killed anyone herself deliberately on-screen except her own family! Unless you count Zepo in the flashback I think?
I completely agree too, that would have been the most horrifying and tragic way to end the arc that we needed.
Sure Germa has lost Yonji and Niji to a book apparently, but it seems like Pudding is going to free them, probably using her DF on Oven and maybe using the wide area v ersion she used to trick the forest homies to get everyone there too? I think it was called Flashback funnily enough?
Pedro only died by suicide even too and he failed to kill Perospero too which just makes it worse. Assuming he is dead too and Will of P didn't save his ass like it did to Pound, that was absolute BS with him.
I've been saying that its not really felt like they've taken on 2 emperors here. WCI still set a horrifying tone with consequences but in Wano, who has really paid the price except Yasuie? WCI still managed to give us a tragic and horrifying tone but not as much as it could and should have too even. Wano has been worse for tat especially Onigashima imo.
Odas handling of Big Mom at Wano and Onigashima except for her flashy and awesome attacks has genuinely been frustrating and upsetting. I thought WCI was bad but at least she truly felt dangerous once she caught up to the SHs and was on the Sunny although she still got trolled by them but also she had that amazing bad song concerto finale and blew up their ship, only for it to be a fakeout and still be fine. We also had another fakeout moment of the ship being blown up at Wano too ofc.
How the Wano half of the SHs are not distraught about Big Mom coming to Wano especially Zoro is beyond me too. Also Franky should be furious about her wrecking the Sunny so badly but nope, nothing!
"The consequences of standing up to an Emperor just by itself alone can already be powerful if Oda execute it right. And OP is not just the fights, there are so many gems of consequences and payoff waiting to be applied properly."
Completely agree. I couldn't have said it better myself. Oda is really fucking up consequences and payoff so badly. He truly has wonderful ideas but far too many and too ambitious and broad and he's struggling on the execution and closure of them. I could probably never produce anything as amazing as he does ofc but its frustrating to see such a truly talented, brutally hard working and dedicated and wise individual sabotage himself and his work so much now.
it sucks for Big Mom if Zoro would be in this fight (for any of the 2SN) well then we would have seen an other big mom and way more crazy feat overhall for both side.
Law&Zoro vs Big Mom
Kidd&Luffy vs Kaido
And you get a way better draw fight in both instances / (cuz Oda cant shit on Luffy nor Zoro and that will make automatically better Kaido&Big Mom and also Kidd&Law)
Law&Zoro vs Big Mom
Kidd&Luffy vs Kaido
And you get a way better draw fight in both instances / (cuz Oda cant shit on Luffy nor Zoro and that will make automatically better Kaido&Big Mom and also Kidd&Law)
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