Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1053 Spoilers Discussion

[ShishioIsBack]

King has the strongest match ups out of Marco ~ Kata and himself when it comes to high tiers and below and the weakest match ups out of the three against top tiers since top tier AP is required to be a top tier and the other two can evade or ignore damahe.

So basically what you are saying here is that
Current Zoro >> King Marco and Kuri

And King > Marco and Kuri
But Zoro would have harder time against Kuri and Marco than against King?

 

[ThatMojaveCourier06]

Okay guys so those of you who are saying Green bull negged kIng also believe King > Chapter 1000 Zoro which If you read the fight correctly you know that's bullshit but lets go with that.

So if Green Bull can neg King he can also neg chapter 1000 Zoro can't he?

Well chapter 1000 Zoro did this to Kaido

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And did this to Kaido

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And Fucking did this to Kaido, which will never go away. Just look at this fucker's face, looks same as King's face in this chapter

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And Tanked this named signature attack from Big Mom

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And tanked this named signature ADVANCED CONQUEROR"S HAKI attack from Kaido (With 30 Broken Bones)

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And tanked this combined Maximum Strength Attack from Kaido and Big Mom

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Zoro was not helpless against either Kaido or Big Mom defensively or offensively and Kaido vs Chapter 1000 Zoro was at least a mid diff.

So if you think Green Bull can neg diff chapter 1000 Zoro without exerting any effort like huffing puffing shivering panting getting blitzed, leaking in blood, screaming, getting his attacks tanked LIKE KAIDO DID then be consistent.

I am ready to admit Green Bull can neg diff King as long as you are ready to admit Green Bull can mid diff Kaido

@Fleet Admiral Lee Hung
@MarineHQ62
@kurwa
@Shiroyru
@ThatMojaveCourier06
@Albino 👑

Kaido shrugged off Zoro's attacks, so I'm not sure what your going off about. In a 1v1 against Kaido, Zoro would be a low diff for Kaido.

 

[Swallalala]

King flip big mom ship and big mom see the king. King is not afraid of big mom.

‘’Queen vs big mom - big mom use this feat. But let see. Big mom knock out queen out of his zoan form like act 1 luffy knock out kaido dragon form. By this reason luffy already beat kaido act 1 with big mom fan logic.
‘But queen rise and hit her head like one shot without using his haki. It break her skull. It hurt big mom.

Big mom vs 3 hormies battle Marco and need her son help her to hurt Marco. More Marco vs big mom, hormies 1, 2, 3, and her son. That is 1 vs 5. Yet she run away when her son is stra h by minks.
Big mom use soul as excuse.

‘’King and queen beat Marco . So big mom have no excuse to run away from Marco.

‘’it is clear greenbull is superior to big mom with one feat alone.

@AdmiralKinyagi @Admiral Mou Bu @Fleet Admiral Lee Hung @Wiwi @Extravlad

They coping that greenbull easily defeat king and queen. Big mom don’t have feats to break king defense. She can’t even serious hurt Kidd even off guard. same Kidd got bleed from appo. King defense >>> Kidd

Funny how you’re leaving out the fact that Big Mom was hakiless & couldn’t use her DF against Queen. And in the end all Queen did was put her to sleep lmao

 

[Don DaSlayer]

Kaido shrugged off Zoro's attacks, so I'm not sure what your going off about. In a 1v1 against Kaido, Zoro would be a low diff for Kaido.

That was Zoro on 1 HP

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Whether @sanjikun likes it or not. Doffy's limit was always YC2 level. He might beat them but that's all he got. Base Kaido one shots him with TB and there's no ability in Doffy's entire arsenal to say he survives that.

Doffy was blitzed by G2 iirc

More and more becoming standard YC3 for me.

He has great physical abilities, speed, agility, durability and endurance.

But his DF's AP is trash, his haki is garbage, he has no real hax outside of parasite which is a plot tool.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Cause he's not a villain who can be chucked aside at any moment lol. Marco does one thing, introducing his flames superiority to normal fire, then gets grabbed and can't break free.

And that superiority never came back or mattered to the plot lol

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Das Crazy some plants who are CoCless are top tier AP you on Dick rn

Lmfao you some space cadet? All Admirals are top tier

 

[The White Crane]

you powerscalers need to STOP

Luffy will low diff Greenbull if he shows up to fuck up the party

 

[ThatMojaveCourier06]

Wrong. Marco wastes stamina by regenerating. King will force him to regenerate all the time because his durability is trash meaning Marco will tire faster.

Nope. Ling is not completely immune to damage, and Marco can also keep up with base Ling. Ling would need to switch to his faster mode to attack, and Marco will be able to defeat Ling through more damage.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

you powerscalers need to STOP

Luffy will low diff Greenbull if he shows up to fuck up the party

What’s the excuse incoming?

“LUFFY WAS NERFED”
“LUFFY HAD INVISIBLE SEA STONE ON!”

 

[Sentinel]

Because it requires more effort than simply tagging Ling with a single tree root

Would have liked to see Smoothie kicking Lucci's arrogant ass.

 

[Gintoki]

That's such a bad take on anything going on lmfao. Greenbull has different tools than Akainu/Kizaru which helps him out against this specific opponent.

So you’re pretty much saying that Greenbull can neg diff anyone with just his tentacle roots lmao

 

[Albino 👑]

Both marco and king along with their bffs jozu and queen just aint those guys
They basically the next best options after the people they wanted to take over could

Marco ain't never gonna be an ace or oden
King ain't ever gonna be a yamato or even a doflamingo

Not everyone can be special sometimes people are just born wack

 

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

Okay guys so those of you who are saying Green bull negged kIng also believe King > Chapter 1000 Zoro which If you read the fight correctly you know that's bullshit but lets go with that.

So if Green Bull can neg King he can also neg chapter 1000 Zoro can't he?

Well chapter 1000 Zoro did this to Kaido

Spoiler

And did this to Kaido

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And Fucking did this to Kaido, which will never go away. Just look at this fucker's face, looks same as King's face in this chapter

Spoiler

And Tanked this named signature attack from Big Mom

Spoiler

And tanked this named signature ADVANCED CONQUEROR"S HAKI attack from Kaido (With 30 Broken Bones)

Spoiler

And tanked this combined Maximum Strength Attack from Kaido and Big Mom

Spoiler

Zoro was not helpless against either Kaido or Big Mom defensively or offensively and Kaido vs Chapter 1000 Zoro was at least a mid diff.

So if you think Green Bull can neg diff chapter 1000 Zoro without exerting any effort like huffing puffing shivering panting getting blitzed, leaking in blood, screaming, getting his attacks tanked LIKE KAIDO DID then be consistent.

I am ready to admit Green Bull can neg diff King as long as you are ready to admit Green Bull can mid diff Kaido

@Fleet Admiral Lee Hung
@MarineHQ62
@kurwa
@Shiroyru
@ThatMojaveCourier06
@Albino 👑

Oh yeah not kaido have big mom help to deal rooftop zoro.
King beat rooftop zoro. Zoro need advanced coc to beat king.

Not to forget broken bones zoro scar kaido.

even if king got 30 broken bones like zoro. He can’t scar or make greenbull bleed. Almost it is neg diff for greenbull to deal king and queen and random fodder.

‘’if greenbull still look good against current zoro . Yep greenbull beating kaido.

 

[Bogard]

Fujitora stalled luffy he wanted to see his character, Greenbull is coming with a battleship which can contain strong marines and the ssg we don’t know yet. He doesn’t have to lose

I'm not saying he'd definitely lose, but i think if they fight, it'd be used to reinforce Luffy's current threat level. Looking at how this arc happened, i think it's a build-up for the upcoming Luffy vs Akainu(yes i think it's more likely to happen now). If we look at the bounty the marines gave to Luffy, it ended up lower than Kaido's, which implies they still view Kaido as stronger than him, in order to stay consistent with Kaido's world strongest title, but at the same time showing his yonko status, to establish Luffy as a true top tier.

But as a top tier, there are match-up factors that should be taken into consideration, and during Kaido's final attack, he mimicked Akainu's magma, which was implied to have been capable to burn him to death if not his haki, with Luffy having trouble to overcome it, which imo was an appetizer of his battle against Akainu. Not to mention the hints around the situation with Sabo and Vivi, who imo might boost Luffy to want to go and save them, ultimately leading to him facing Akainu.

But before that, Oda decided to send an admiral(Greenbull) for Luffy, said admiral who wants to impress Sakazuki, by trying to take Luffy's head, said admiral who is working like an intermediary in the upcoming Luffy vs Akainu battle, with Greenbull seeing first hand just how strong Luffy became, and thus acting as a warning for Akainu

 

[Gintoki]

Okay guys so those of you who are saying Green bull negged kIng also believe King > Chapter 1000 Zoro which If you read the fight correctly you know that's bullshit but lets go with that.

So if Green Bull can neg King he can also neg chapter 1000 Zoro can't he?

Well chapter 1000 Zoro did this to Kaido

Spoiler

And did this to Kaido

Spoiler

And Fucking did this to Kaido, which will never go away. Just look at this fucker's face, looks same as King's face in this chapter

Spoiler

And Tanked this named signature attack from Big Mom

Spoiler

And tanked this named signature ADVANCED CONQUEROR"S HAKI attack from Kaido (With 30 Broken Bones)

Spoiler

And tanked this combined Maximum Strength Attack from Kaido and Big Mom

Spoiler

Zoro was not helpless against either Kaido or Big Mom defensively or offensively and Kaido vs Chapter 1000 Zoro was at least a mid diff.

So if you think Green Bull can neg diff chapter 1000 Zoro without exerting any effort like huffing puffing shivering panting getting blitzed, leaking in blood, screaming, getting his attacks tanked LIKE KAIDO DID then be consistent.

I am ready to admit Green Bull can neg diff King as long as you are ready to admit Green Bull can mid diff Kaido

@Fleet Admiral Lee Hung
@MarineHQ62
@kurwa
@Shiroyru
@ThatMojaveCourier06
@Albino 👑

Cope, the post lmao

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Because it requires more effort than simply tagging Ling with a single tree root

You're literally using an off screen battle to justify your bias lmfao.

There's no telling how quickly he lost though we know for a fact Marco would be in the same boat because he literally was grabbed and put in a similar situation by Linlin.

 

[Swallalala]

Even if GB clashes with Luffy, what makes y’all think he will use G5? He didn’t use G4 against Fujitora in Dressrosa

 

[GoldDiamond]

Zeus was already out when Marco fought BM. She only had Prometheus.

Thanks was confused

Cause he's not a villain who can be chucked aside at any moment lol. Marco does one thing, introducing his flames superiority to normal fire, then gets grabbed and can't break free.

Was he suppose to break free? Big mom is a physical monster. But we seen him interacting with top tiers and also king, kat

 

[kurwa]

Okay guys so those of you who are saying Green bull negged kIng also believe King > Chapter 1000 Zoro which If you read the fight correctly you know that's bullshit but lets go with that.

So if Green Bull can neg King he can also neg chapter 1000 Zoro can't he?

Well chapter 1000 Zoro did this to Kaido

Spoiler

And did this to Kaido

Spoiler

And Fucking did this to Kaido, which will never go away. Just look at this fucker's face, looks same as King's face in this chapter

Spoiler

And Tanked this named signature attack from Big Mom

Spoiler

And tanked this named signature ADVANCED CONQUEROR"S HAKI attack from Kaido (With 30 Broken Bones)

Spoiler

And tanked this combined Maximum Strength Attack from Kaido and Big Mom

Spoiler

Zoro was not helpless against either Kaido or Big Mom defensively or offensively and Kaido vs Chapter 1000 Zoro was at least a mid diff.

So if you think Green Bull can neg diff chapter 1000 Zoro without exerting any effort like huffing puffing shivering panting getting blitzed, leaking in blood, screaming, getting his attacks tanked LIKE KAIDO DID then be consistent.

I am ready to admit Green Bull can neg diff King as long as you are ready to admit Green Bull can mid diff Kaido

@Fleet Admiral Lee Hung
@MarineHQ62
@kurwa
@Shiroyru
@ThatMojaveCourier06
@Albino 👑

Yes, Greenbull neg diffs Kaido but that has nothing to do with King.

You really overate the shit out of King. Greenbull didn't differentiate King from Queen.