Did Sanji break his leg this chapter?


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Gol D. Roger

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If you know he isn’t using his strongest moves, why are you using this as evidence that he somehow can’t beat King?
Because nothing suggests he can't hurt King? This defense that Sanji failed to get past is weaker than the weakest version of King we've known, and Jimbo didn't even have flames on.


Zoro beat king with KoH, not his nameless base ittoryu attacks.
The difference b/w Zoro and Sanji is, Zoro proved himself against Kaido before failing against King. So he has a better portfolio than Sanji. Everyone and their mothers with a half-working brain already know Zoro's AP shits on Sanji's, and by extension, we also know Sanji can't get past King's flame defense.

Zoro only landed one KoH attack on King and that put him down. King withstanding the other two CoC attacks from Zoro proves he is that good even outside his defense mode. However, we've been selling people this idea that King is a glass canon in his non-defense mode and that anyone could beat him as long as his defense is off. This chapter proves someone of Sanji's caliber couldn't damage him even if he attacked him with the intent to kill him outside his defense mode.

We all used to think most people could hurt King outside defense mode, but this chapter made it very clear it's not an easy business. This hype coming from Sanji is more ridiculous because you can't block Sanji's attacks just by being physically tough, you have to resist the heat too, which is something even Kaido couldn't do. All of this is news for all of us.
 
First of all, we don't know whether Sera Jinbe has Fishman Karate. Seraphim Hancock doesn't have Hancock's DF, Seraphim Mihawk doesn't have Yoru, and real Jinbe doesn't have Swim Swim fruit.

Second, assuming Seraphim Jinbe has Fishman Karate. Jinbe has better mastery, better intelligent, and better instinct when fighting.
Seraphims doesn't really dodge and depend on their durability to tank. Jinbe can dodge.
Jinbe lands Fishman Karate on Seraphim Jinbe and it damages the Seraphim from inside.
Seraphim Jinbe tries to land Fishman Karate on Jinbe and Jinbe dodges.
Vegapunk himself said it, Sera Jinbei lacks "pedigree" factor. OG Jinbei clears. It's like putting Michael Phelps, greatest swimmer of all time, in a game of Water Polo and expect him to be the best without having training/experience/pedigree. But his potential physically is of course the highest. scary how strong the seras can become with exposure.
 
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Shouldn't Sugars fruit be useless against at least the two CoC users Luffy and Zoro now? Like how Law broke out of Doc Qs attack? Scary fruit otherwise that the Marines might control.
Absolutely. Law broke Doc Qs attack without even revealing which type of haki was used, so does he secretly have CoC for some reason or was it CoA?

CoC users shold be able to resist Sugars fruit regardless, at least to counter being transformed and return to normal again.

Considering most SHs are haki less, they are just as vulnerable to it too like Robin was?

It's an absolutely terrifying fruit for the Marines to have too. It suits the WGs agenda of erasing people too well.

Imagine if the fruit as awakened too?!

Also, was Sugar never knocked out for any reason, for all of those years or even a decade of Kyros and others being a toy?

This writing is such a mess...
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Just noticed it's already out💀
Sadly it's not as good as TCBs version but it's passable/readable at least. Terrible scans but translation seems ok?
 
We all used to think most people could hurt King outside defense mode, but this chapter made it very clear it's not an easy business. This hype coming from Sanji is more ridiculous because you can't block Sanji's attacks just by being physically tough, you have to resist the heat too, which is something even Kaido couldn't do. All of this is news for all of us.
I mean Sanji probably did do some damage to SeraJinbe, we pretty much went through the same thing with Sanji vs Queen and Luffy vs Kaido where people thought they weren't doing damage because it wasn't immediately obvious in the way, for example, an attack from Zoro doing damage is.
 

Gol D. Roger

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I mean Sanji probably did do some damage to SeraJinbe, we pretty much went through the same thing with Sanji vs Queen and Luffy vs Kaido where people thought they weren't doing damage because it wasn't immediately obvious in the way, for example, an attack from Zoro doing damage is.
It was clear one way or another that Sanji and Luffy were at least getting past Queen and Kaido's defense for us to assume they were accumulating damage. That didn't happen with Sanji and Jimbo, so we have to wait. Even the people testing the fight were more concerned about Franky than Sanji's enraged kick. Keep that for a record.
 

Mr. Reloaded

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I think the Lions trading their best Tight End to the Vikings shows their season is fucking over and that they really hate the Bears and Packers a lot more than they hate the Vikings.

Even I want your GM to be fired, fuck that idiot, IS IT THAT HARD TO GET RECIEVERS?!?!?
Truer words have never been spoken my friend :gokulaugh:
 
Because nothing suggests he can't hurt King? This defense that Sanji failed to get past is weaker than the weakest version of King we've known, and Jimbo didn't even have flames on.




The difference b/w Zoro and Sanji is, Zoro proved himself against Kaido before failing against King. So he has a better portfolio than Sanji. Everyone and their mothers with a half-working brain already know Zoro's AP shits on Sanji's, and by extension, we also know Sanji can't get past King's flame defense.

Zoro only landed one KoH attack on King and that put him down. King withstanding the other two CoC attacks from Zoro proves he is that good even outside his defense mode. However, we've been selling people this idea that King is a glass canon in his non-defense mode and that anyone could beat him as long as his defense is off. This chapter proves someone of Sanji's caliber couldn't damage him even if he attacked him with the intent to kill him outside his defense mode.

We all used to think most people could hurt King outside defense mode, but this chapter made it very clear it's not an easy business. This hype coming from Sanji is more ridiculous because you can't block Sanji's attacks just by being physically tough, you have to resist the heat too, which is something even Kaido couldn't do. All of this is news for all of us.
Well said.
 
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