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Who will fight Kizaru ?


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Gol D. Roger

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Yeah it does because if they cant control themselves that just means they werent strong or skilled enough to master it
Again, why does it matter if they still have access to their awakening abilities? Being mindless makes them more efficient in fights by making them more brutal and aggressive. They're fodder, generally speaking; having a brain will only make them weak due to fear. Let's not change the goalposts here. The point you were making is having an awakening makes people special. The fact that these mindless beasts can achieve it proves it's not that special in the first place.
Orochi a mythical zoan is not comparable in any way to any awakening user
Even a since brainless impel down gaurd would fuck him up beyond belief
Orochi is fodder but is still broken just for being an MZ user while the co-called awakening users are only strong because they're already competent outside awakening. Mindless awakening what? You don't take a competent guy and an incompetent guy to conveniently make a point.

You take two guys of the same skill, give them the same ability, then determine which ability is greater based on how well they perform with each ability. Give Orochi a normal zoan awakening, he'd be less fodder than he is with a mythical zoan fruit. Give ID beasts a Mythical Zoan, they'd be more OP than their mindless zoan forms. That's how you make a comparison. Onimaru fucks up all ID beats at the same time btw.

Yes mastering any skill does and if you aren't capable of doing so it also does
Marco and alber have no excuse especially since neither of their fruits is complexions
Again, their abilities are already more broken than most awakenings and level-1 CoC. Giving them these abilities will make CoC and awakening less special, and it also results in making them stronger than they're required to be. King is already beyond Katakuri and Doffy, he'd be a top-tier if you give him awakening. That would've been anti-climatic for Wano's standards. They can't have everything.

Yes being able to fight roger and garp in their primes definitely makes you a bigger deal.
King the most relevant lunarian does not come anywhere close to that when it comes to anything
Being a conqueror automatically means you were born for greatness
Being born a lunarian doesn't
No, it doesn't. Chinjao to Garp was about as relevant as Lucci is to Luffy in this chapter. How you think getting fodderized by Garp is more relevant than having direct ties with the roots of the OP world is beyond me. There should be a limit to how badly you ignore logic to downplay characters. White, freaking, beard of all people called Lunarian's Gods, mate.

No conqueror gets to be treated that way. Most conquerors die without ever realizing their potential. The conquerors you see at the top of the world are the cream of the crop, and some of them are still 2nd rate when compared to great guys. Some aren't even great due to CoC. Meanwhile, you can be a God just by being Lunarian fodder.


Marco was overshadowed by every conqueror that stepped foot on the whitebeard pirates ship
The same conquerors who overshadowed their fellow conquerors too. Compare Chinjao, Doffy, Katakuri, etc with the same guys you're comparing Marco with, they'd look less special than Marco. Marco is different because he was shining even when he's hanging out with the best of the best conquerors.

Marco alone is not the reason blackbeard became an emperor. It was beating the rest of the remaining wbp as a whole
BB alone didn't fight Marco group either. Being on the front lines is what is important. And Marco to BB was what Aokiji to Akainu.
 

Gol D. Roger

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I also think Katakuri will come back but he definitely is a Luffy fanboy. He'll come back and ask help to to take Pudding back, after all it's been shown multiple times that he cares a lot about his brothers and sisters. But he can't do it alone.
However he ain't showing anything new, like people expecting adv CoC and shit, it's not happening
Katakuri is coming back, not because he's a conqueror or awakening. It's because he has ties with Luffy and other less important plot points. Big Mom pirates will help SH against BB IMO.
 
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