Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1085 Spoilers Discussion

Who's the final villain?


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I do think he'd beat Katakuri - Marco in a fight. King depending on how he deals with S-Shark
The thing with king is kings kit gets hard countered by Sanji. With kings ultimate move being flames colder than Sanjis IJ that attack can’t even hurt Sanji and King being slower than Marco who’s a lot slower than Sanji, Sanji will just be able to blitz him whenever he takes his flames off.
 
Nah , with Katakuri it's either way while against Marco , the later is superior .

King > Marco > Sanji ≈ Katakuri .
I'd argue it's the other way around.

Katakuri beats Marco. Marco is terribly one dimensional and in that specific dimension completely inferior to Sanji.

Speed, AP, lethality, Durability Sanji beats him in all. Kat has shape-shifting but with Sanji's speed he can work around it, also, Kat ain't taking 5 IJ kicks, trust me on that.
 
I wouldn't depend on this until Oda confirms the flame heat hierarchy. King's magma like flames are undoubtedly far superior to Sanjis diable jambe flame so we don't know how IJ would interact with his flames.
It’s not the hierarchy it’s about raw heat. Everything were led to believe is that magma consumes fire. Not that it’s hotter. And IJ is incredibly hot and intense flame. Since we’re told IJ flames are hotter than normal fire but not the same for Magma it’s very safe to assume that IJ is just hotter than it.

Sure magma will still devour the flame, but kings magma like flames just means they’re thicker Sanji will be able to run through it like running through water since his body has shown much higher heat resistance than Kings heat then reignite his IJ and finish him.
 
I wouldn't depend on this until Oda confirms the flame heat hierarchy. King's magma like flames are undoubtedly far superior to Sanjis diable jambe flame so we don't know how IJ would interact with his flames.
Blue flames burn hotter than red flames and magma.
Red fire is between 600-800 Celsius
magma is around 1500 celsius
And blue flames are from 2500-3000 Celsius
Kings flame was compared to magma
So ifrit jambe takes the win here
 
Katakuri beats Marco. Marco is terribly one dimensional and in that specific dimension completely inferior to Sanji.
well but i prefer using Portrayal when a character isn't using his full Power , and about Marco and Katakuri ; there is a panel that shows how Marco has a superior portrayal than Katakuri when BM said :
why someone on your caliber is helping these ppl ;

She said this about someone who beat her son in her Island .

Speed, AP, lethality, Durability Sanji beats him in all. Kat has shape-shifting but with Sanji's speed he can work around it, also, Kat ain't taking 5 IJ kicks, trust me on that.
Katakuri has FS , lethality with his spear , his AP is good to bypass Sanji's durability , his speed is good , his defence is good , his aoe attacks are good ; sanji needs to land his attacks so he needs either AOE attacks or bypassing FS with his speed which is never seen ; he is like Speed Mode King and you see how Zoro reacted to his hits let alone a FS user .
 
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