There is absolutely no way Akainu and Aokiji literally chose an empty island to go all out in their battle and permanently altered it and yet you're telling me ice ball and ice glove are the peak of Kuzan ice power lmao.
same people who called it "cope" when it was pointed out by some fans that Ryokugyu and Fujitora were likely holding back a lot in Mary geoise. Just for Oda to confirm for it to be the case several times in the same chapter during the reverie flashback lol.