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Again. Oda ALWAYS nerfs foes before admirals fights them.

It's actually embarrassing people still argue Yonko=admiral.

1. Whitebeard was 72. Had 2 heart attacks and had to be stabbed. He fought thousands of marines and took hundreds of wounds.
2. Garp was 78. And stabbed.
3. Rayleigh was 76 I think? Hadn't held a sword in a while. But he isn't exactly at the top of the power tiers as he's a subordinate.
4. Luffy isn't using acoc.
 
Because yonko is too weak to even tag an admiral and admiral is too strong so yonko can’t stop himself from flying from an admiral’s attack?

idk, if i was a yonkocuck, i would have killed myself after Meme couldn’t do anything to Kid even with Hawkins magic distracting and damaging Kid
And after CP0 helped Crydo
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Even Katakuri was blocking ACoC-less, Ryuo-less Snakeman punches. The leakers trolled you guys
 
Kaidou was def upping his level. But drinking was def a boost he didn't have access to earlier, seems he capped off with Hybrid going toe to toe with FS + G2/3 Luffy.

G2/3 Luffy with advCoC and FS is roughly a pre drinking Hybrid Kaidou level combatant.
Kaido wasnt drunk when fighting G5, I dont think drinking actually does anything to him but release his inhibitions. IE he stops holding back so much.
 
No you just said you expected Kizaru to beat the shit out of FS + AdvCoC G4 Luffy when Kaidou needed a drink after facing advCoC G2/3 Luffy.....

That's nuts on your part. Like how big of a chump do you think Kaidou was lmfao?
I expected him to block his hits, it’s not that big of a deal. Kaido ate dozens of that, For someone with light powers + top-tier level barrier haki, catching some snakeman hits is bare minimum terittory. The impression that this gives me is that Kizaru might not be able block any acoc + snakeman hits, he’ll get sent flying. Feels like Oda himself is giving leeway for that argument
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Even Katakuri was blocking ACoC-less, Ryuo-less Snakeman punches. The leakers trolled you guys
Katakuri has FS my guy...and he was still getting tagged despite that. This chapter almost single handedly is killing the FS agenda.....Kizaru punked Snakeman + FS. This keeps up I'll have to hide from Roger lmfao...
 
I'm referring to the 3 small panels above the panel where Kizaru is already in the sky, not the kick itself. Luffy isn't being blinded by the light when Kizaru moves to the sky. While Kizaru moves Luffy is seen still fighting and facing the direction Kizaru was standing at before, then he moves his whole body towards the light when Kizaru was completely gone and up in the sky.
We are both refering to the same thing. Hes blinded he even has his hand over his face while firing a fist with the other.
 
He went toe to toe with base ACoC Luffy then toe to toe with g2/g3 ACoC Luffy then went toe to toe with G4 ACoC then went toe to toe with G5 ACoC Luffy and even overwhelmed him at time until the final clash. When will you learn that the man was adjusting his power level to match his foe? They literally spell it out to the reader that he likes to play with his food and enjoys a good fight.


This is headcanon, for all we know Luffy went straight to G4 after that kick last chapter and his face looked clean. Also, again bro, Luffy is not using ACoC.

Look man, Im aware many marine fans irrationally hate Kaido but let’s not go there when you have no argument for it.
Kaido wasn’t overwhelming shit, he literally started dodging and admitting that he needed too, they were beating each others ass

note a weaker Luffy at that

Kizaru just did what Kaido wish he could’ve done without bowlermans help
 
*Yeah, Kaido needed a drink after facing acoc Luffy, what Kizaru doing here is basically a Katakuri level feat. I agree with @ConquistadoR lmao
Besides, I expected this much. Anything speed-related should be Kizaru’s forte
This is definitely not true. While there is visual indicators to say Luffy didn't use aCoC there is no visual indicator that Luffy wasn't using FS or aCoA. This is Yonkou Luffy Kizaru is fighting, not WCI Luffy.
 
He has definitely used aCoC in that kick last chapter. Oda is very careful with drawing the Haki sparks and he definitely did no exclude them with the kick. Luffy cannot hit Kizaru even with Snakeman so there really isn't any point in using aCoC.
Luffy made contact so it wasn't ACoC

Even if it somehow was, those black sparks were puny, so it would be a very low output
 
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Bro
Kaido is indeed top 1
Weakened Kaido was matching adcoc-adcoa g3, & g4 and won. Even matched aadcoa- adcoc gg5in both rounds

Katakuri :cheers:Hype

He matched a far more serious snakeman : named attacks...dodging and blitzing luffy

Kizaru can only block and only landed 1 move
Luffy didn't even use any named move nor adhaki (bar fs maybe)
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
I expected him to block his hits, it’s not that big of a deal. Kaido ate dozens of that, For someone with light powers + top-tier level barrier haki, catching some snakeman hits is bare minimum terittory. The impression that this gives me is that Kizaru might not be able block any acoc + snakeman hits, he’ll get sent flying. Feels like Oda himself is giving leeway for that argument
Yea that's possible, maybe Oda wanted Kizaru to trash Luffy initially, and if Luffy was using advCoC he wouldn't be able to gain that separation, and would already have taken damage?
 
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