You have Kizaru Fans thinking Kizaru did something
Imagine fighting someone and all you did was papercut and you get dusted twice easily in 1 move each round
Then you have Zoro fans saying he won even though they know he didn't KO Lucci
Lucci and zoro : the fight isn't over
Zoro fans : Zoro is wrong...He won that's why Jinbei says that and had to finish the job for him
I would never defend kid or katakuri like this
Imagine they claim they didn't win but I must say they win against X because "well...that guy is bloodied standing "