Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1112 Spoilers Discussion

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Sanji and zoro always fight the same group of enemies
Never happens
Sanji got negged by Vergo
Zoro stomped Pica who is strongest executive

Zoro stomped strongest priest.
Sanji defeated other one in 1v2

Zoro nearly killed Kaido without CoC
While Sanji was negged by Black Maria

Zoro and Luffy got special opponents in FMI
Sanji had to team with Jinbej to defeat Hodys pet.

Hyozou and Wadatstumi weren't same group

There are many exceptions to same group rule

Zoro and Luffy defeated Lucci
Sanji was defeated by Saturn's eye.

Zoro and Luffy have Mihawk and Shanks
Sanji has Ivankov.

King and Queen are hardly same group anyways.
One is a lunarian who is Kaidos RHM while other is a random clown

Mr0 and Mr1 are grouped a lot more than Mr1 and Mr2. Crocodile gave zero fucks about Bon Clay and Mr1 no diffs Bon Clay

There is always humongous gap between Zoro and Sanjis opponents too

Ohm >>>>>>>> Satori
King >>>>>>>>> Queen
Mr 1 >>>>>>>>> Mr2

Nah Sanji is not unlocking AdvCoC and fighting advanced Conqueror.
 
Did I say they needed it? Lol

It’s the guys who rely on the Admirals for protection who choose to have the Admirals for protection, not the other way around. This is how they’ve chosen to structure the WG.
The ones who rely on the Admirals for protection are the CD bozos with the space suits.
Gorosei are literally running wild on the island and so far nobody could stop them nor hurt them. Kizaru was with Saturn for extra assistance, not to protect him because he's weak.

To put it simply prime Mike Tayson had a few bodyguards with him but he could beat their asses anytime he wanted.
 

Lee Ba Shou

Conqueror of the Stars
Being someone’s protection doesn’t necessarily make you stronger than them.

Reminds me of those pictures of heavyweight boxers and fighters walking around with body guards less than half their size lol
Of course.

But again there’s the whole issue of the WG dubbing the Admirals as “the strongest fighting power of the World Government.” When there is no logical reason for them to do this if the guys who rely on the Admirals for protection are stronger than the Admirals.

And don’t make me break down the whole “the Gorosei being weak is WG propaganda” nonsense lol.

Propaganda is when you lie about your leaders being strong, not when you try to lie about them being weak. A country lying about their leadership being weak has never happened in human history. It’s always the opposite, countries always try to argue that their leaders are much stronger than they actually are.
 
Sanji will never face Gorosei unless Gorosei he is facing has no advCoC.

Oda wants nothing more than AdvCoC and never will a clash of a AdvCoC user and Non AdvCoC user result in a victory for a nonAdvCoC user unless there is humongous power gap which doesn't seem possible as Sanji has low commander level base stats and Gorosei are awakened mythical zoans.

His final opponent is Kizaru
Lol becuse Kizaru Is clearly not siding with the Gov in the end (not even at the end of the saga, really).

And lol 2.0 at thinking Sanji cannot beat, idk, Ju Peter but can beat Kizaru.
 
Of course.

But again there’s the whole issue of the WG dubbing the Admirals as “the strongest fighting power of the World Government.” When there is no logical reason for them to do this if the guys who rely on the Admirals for protection are stronger than the Admirals.

And don’t make me break down the whole “the Gorosei being weak is WG propaganda” nonsense lol.

Propaganda is when you lie about your leaders being strong, not when you try to lie about them being weak. A country lying about their leadership being weak has never happened in human history. It’s always the opposite, countries always try to argue that their leaders are much stronger than they actually are.
I alway took the fighting power to be a military statement, as in the admirals are the strongest combatants in the military branch of the government (navy, cipher pol, all forces under Kong).

The gorosei are a part of the political branch.
 
It's time to reevaluate Kaido's statement of Haki reigning supreme. Devil fruits give sooo much more to a fighter than Haki, it's seriously crazy.

Kaido has never witnessed the Gorosei, never seen a Logia awakening and wasn't awakened himself.

Fruit powers > Haki
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Haki is the only "tool" you can use against those OP abilities ,we have to look at it from this perspective .
Kinda think about the panel Don in Dressrosa where he said only the strongest can conqueror the sea .
Just because you have CoC doesn‘t mean you got what it takes to be on top.


There is for sure another level to CoC haki probably almost no one currently is able to use .
Kaido only mentioned Roger as example for Haki ,kinda tells us how rare this probably is.
 
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