Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1123 Spoilers Discussion

Was Sanji mentally nerfed in Egghead?


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Doesn't even make sense, the stronger your haki, the stronger your 'sworskills' as proven by the scabbards using the same named attack as Oden and not being able to reopen his scar. Oden is literally part of that top 5 while not having a black blade.
Wrong. Sword skill has nothing to do with haki.

If that was the case Oda wouldn't have specified Mihawk to just sword skill, he wouldn't have made Kaido say haki transcends all, he would've made him say swordsmanship transcends all. Wrong, scabbard-oden comparison is invalid because Scabbards don't have conquerors so they're both completely different attacks. Scabbards is related to sword skill solely. Doesn't matter both are 2 different attacks.
Black blades don't mean squat for anybody except swordsmen presumably because swordsmen (only Zoro, Mihawk, Ryuma) are fodder without it whilst hakimen don't rely on their swords and could pick up a twig and keep on fighting if needed. Also Oden died before Mihawk got his title so doesn't matter either way.
 

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If the VA are down to last chapters CoC blast, even though they already took the CoC blast casually without any signs of distress, then I am truly finished discussing this manga. Oda can just draw something and then go back on it a week later, no point discussing a series like that. Misdirection is one thing, this would be flat out corny.
 
Man....so much juicy content we are gonna miss out on, if he's talking about Garp vs Kuzan and they cutting 95% of his stuff, then it's likely the entire episode was full jamed packed with action scenes that were offpanelled in the manga too.....

Atleast he seems eager to work on Luffy vs Kizaru, I think that is the main event in the near future.
clearly cuz there is nothing left cuz zori vs lucci will take max 30second animation :suresure::shame:
 
Yeah, he never once used a sword technique in the same way Shanks never once used a sword technique. The rest of that is just semantics and your head canon trying to draw conclusions from it.

Roger and Shanks are exactly like King. They don't ever use sword techniques. All I see is picking and choosing based on your wrong head canon here. The distinction your trying to make here (named attacks=difference) is your head canon. Devine Departure is the exact same as extra large imperial flaming wings as far as I'm concerned.

Anyways, I agree with this:

Shanks and Roger are just as much swordsmen as King. IN other words not at all.
Until I see the panel of Shanks/Roger saying their swordsmen that fall under Mihawks title, they ain't. They can use as many sword techniques as they want, it won't matter because Big Mom has dozens of sword techniques and still isn't a swordsman. Therefore Shanks/Roger ain't either.


A swordsman that can not cut anything and can also cut through steel with the same instrument.










  • Both instances oden/kid are not cut
  • Shanks cuts through steel railgun with the same instrument while also not cutting kidd
  • clear pictures of oden and kidd who have no cut marks what so ever

oda has already established that swordsmen in his world can do these things, and he has demonstrated this level of swordsmanship through shanks and roger.They are swordsmen. In every Sense
 
Yeah, he never once used a sword technique in the same way Shanks never once used a sword technique. The rest of that is just semantics and your head canon trying to draw conclusions from it.

Roger and Shanks are exactly like King. They don't ever use sword techniques. All I see is picking and choosing based on your wrong head canon here. The distinction your trying to make here (named attacks=difference) is your head canon. Devine Departure is the exact same as extra large imperial flaming wings as far as I'm concerned.

Anyways, I agree with this:

Shanks and Roger are just as much swordsmen as King. IN other words not at all.
Until I see the panel of Shanks/Roger saying their swordsmen that fall under Mihawks title, they ain't. They can use as many sword techniques as they want, it won't matter because Big Mom has dozens of sword techniques and still isn't a swordsman. Therefore Shanks/Roger ain't either.
Interesting.. Is Imperial Dragon a Sword technique, i'm going to think about it.. Cause i consider Roger's Kamusari as a Swordsmanship technique..
 
Wrong, scabbard-oden comparison is invalid because Scabbards don't have conquerors so they're both completely different attacks. Scabbards is related to sword skill solely. Doesn't matter both are 2 different attacks.
So CoC haki changes the “sword skill”

That means CoC haki can change the exact same move from ONE sword skill to ANOTHER sword skill

It’s almost like CoC haki IS PART of the Sword skill since it has the ability to CHANGE IT, Right?
 
So Hulk Hogan is casually taking Joyboy CoC with zero signs of distress and his underlings passing out around him,

but then we are supposed to believe he is magically knocked out this chapter? Oda has never been more cooked, hopefully there is something more to this.
I really wonder what was Oda thought process when showing double chin struggling instead would have made the transition to the VAs being out flow naturally?
Bait and switch for the sake of it? "Hahaha you thought VAs tanked the blast but in fact they didn't"?
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