Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1125 Spoilers Discussion

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With Oda breaking the pattern with the Sandworm, I am currently waiting what happens with Garling. If he inherits Saturns powers or gets his own I would guess we would be able to tell more about if Imu simply has general demonic powers and Oda just went with mostly Japanese ones since he himself is familiar with them/thinking they are cool, or if Imu himself is also part of the theme.

From what I know Japan does not really have a true "TOP" devil for Imu to emulate though. Izanagi and Izanami are the mother and father of all gods, so he could be either of those in theory I guess? Could be that Nika was the other, and Imu is the surviving other half of the creation deity pair of One Piece.
Well, Warcury's zoan form comes from Chinese mythology, not Japanese, iirc.
 
We are following Luffy's adventures but we should never forget most pirates are like Vasco Shot or Kid. Thieves, murderers, rapists, the worst society has to offer. The WG exist to keep them at bay and protect the world.
Explain to me why and how the Celestial Dragons, who demand heavenly tribute (steal), take Harems of women whom in their intro are shown to be very unwilling (rape) and kill their loved ones/husbands for resisting them (murder) are somehow better than Pirates.

I wait.

No really, take your time. Why exactly are the World Government who in addition to ALL the crimes listed hold the Native Hunting Competition, a triennial contest where the World Nobles genocide an entire island, needed to keep the big bad Pirates at bay?

Matter of fact, why are the Marines who slaughter every woman and their children who theoretically could be Rogers wife and heir all for the crime of existing, any better?

I made a thread about this before: https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...am-tired-of-people-acting-like-they-do.54448/

The Marines NOW are basically just a larger Yonko crew who do the bidding of their WG masters. When Coby/Smoker/Fuji take over they MAY become the good guys but now under Akainu, and before him Sengoku and Kong?

Straight up there is no real difference between some Pirate like Big Mom asking for sweet/forcing you to provide her with tribute and the Celestial Dragons asking for Heavenly Tribute, expect that Big Mom and other Pirates as far we know do not randomly just genocide islands for the fun of it.
 
Explain to me why and how the Celestial Dragons, who demand heavenly tribute (steal), take Harems of women whom in their intro are shown to be very unwilling (rape) and kill their loved ones/husbands for resisting them (murder) are somehow better than Pirates.

I wait.

No really, take your time. Why exactly are the World Government who in addition to ALL the crimes listed hold the Native Hunting Competition, a triennial contest where the World Nobles genocide an entire island, needed to keep the big bad Pirates at bay?

Matter of fact, why are the Marines who slaughter every woman and their children who theoretically could be Rogers wife and heir all for the crime of existing, any better?

I made a thread about this before: https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...am-tired-of-people-acting-like-they-do.54448/

The Marines NOW are basically just a larger Yonko crew who do the bidding of their WG masters. When Coby/Smoker/Fuji take over they MAY become the good guys but now under Akainu, and before him Sengoku and Kong?

Straight up there is no real difference between some Pirate like Big Mom asking for sweet/forcing you to provide her with tribute and the Celestial Dragons asking for Heavenly Tribute, expect that Big Mom and other Pirates as far we know do not randomly just genocide islands for the fun of it.
Oda spoon fed the readers with kids comment during sabbody lol
 
Since 4 out of 5 of their forms were Youkai (Still don't get the Sandworm), I wonder if there is a Yokuai in Japanese folklore that is like the "mother" or "king" of them.
There is and....wow. We may have a winner here.

Nurahiyon. Said to be The Supreme Commander of Yokai.
Notabld feature....is having a elongated head.
And Nurahiyon is often mistaken for the Umibozu.

In terms of behaviour, Nurahiyon behaves like he owns everything.
He would just enter a house, sit, eat, smoke, drink like its all his own.
You also cant chase him away cause he has powers of claiming things and people if you lay eyes upon him.
 
There is and....wow. We may have a winner here.

Nurahiyon. Said to be The Supreme Commander of Yokai.
Notabld feature....is having a elongated head.
And Nurahiyon is often mistaken for the Umibozu.

In terms of behaviour, Nurahiyon behaves like he owns everything.
He would just enter a house, sit, eat, smoke, drink like its all his own.
You also cant chase him away cause he has powers of claiming things and people if you lay eyes upon him.
Hold on, it even says he can be described as an old, bald man with a sword he uses to demonstrate his wealth.


Huh.
 
There is and....wow. We may have a winner here.

Nurahiyon. Said to be The Supreme Commander of Yokai.
Notabld feature....is having a elongated head.
And Nurahiyon is often mistaken for the Umibozu.

In terms of behaviour, Nurahiyon behaves like he owns everything.
He would just enter a house, sit, eat, smoke, drink like its all his own.
You also cant chase him away cause he has powers of claiming things and people if you lay eyes upon him.

Hello, I'm Mr Imu!
 
Explain to me why and how the Celestial Dragons, who demand heavenly tribute (steal), take Harems of women whom in their intro are shown to be very unwilling (rape) and kill their loved ones/husbands for resisting them (murder) are somehow better than Pirates.

I wait.

No really, take your time. Why exactly are the World Government who in addition to ALL the crimes listed hold the Native Hunting Competition, a triennial contest where the World Nobles genocide an entire island, needed to keep the big bad Pirates at bay?
Sounds like politicians, no?
 
Explain to me why and how the Celestial Dragons, who demand heavenly tribute (steal), take Harems of women whom in their intro are shown to be very unwilling (rape) and kill their loved ones/husbands for resisting them (murder) are somehow better than Pirates.
Hundreds Celestial dragons << hundreds of thousands evil pirates

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No WG order without Celestial dragons

:goyea:
 
I don't think so.
It was only said beloved sword.
Ah. Thought it was handled like Fujitora's sword which I believe got its name and grade revealed at the same time. Weird move to not drop the two tidbits at the same time...
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We dont know anything about the grade of Gryphon but it should be revealed as Supreme Grade sooner or later.

Roger, Whitebeard, Mihawk, Venus and Fujitora are the only confirmed weilders of Supreme Grades.
Yeah would be odd for him to be the only high level swordsman without a blade of that caliber.
 
We are following Luffy's adventures but we should never forget most pirates are like Vasco Shot or Kid. Thieves, murderers, rapists, the worst society has to offer. The WG exist to keep them at bay and protect the world.

Also secrets can be extremely dangerous. Should the Ancient weapons be awakened, tens of thousands would die, chaos would spread and the strongest pirates would rule the world as they like.

Why shouldn't they trust the government? It is trying his best, isn't it? :kayneshrug:
i hate when people like you include kid in this conversation.
kid is not comparable to someone like vasco shit. he actually has morals and we've been shown that he actually cares about injustice.
one of the best one piece quotes comes form kid which goes as followed ''when scum rule the world, only more scum is born''
now read that again and let it sink in, before we include kid in these dumb ass convos about ''evil pirates'' cause he is not one of them.

i would even argue that blackbeard isnt evil either but we dont have enough information for me to claim that
 
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