Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1129 Spoilers Discussion

[Cruxroux]

108 pound cannon is the force of 108 cannons shooting a cannonball, Oda explained this in a SBS.
1080 pound cannon exists to show that zoro got stronger.

No actually ,
" 12 pounds might not sound like much, but the cannon needed to shoot them will need to weight over 1 ton. "
This is what Oda said.
And 12 x 9 = 108 ,
Nearly 10 ton Feat right there for Pre time skip zoro.
And In post time skip it got increased to 1080 pound ho.
Increasing it to further 100 Tons feat with Invisible Haki alone.

 

[Albino 👑]

108 pound cannon is the force of 108 cannons shooting a cannonball, Oda explained this in a SBS.
1080 pound cannon exists to show that zoro got stronger.
The green flame is not haki.

So skypia/enles lobby 108 = thriller bark/sabaody 108? Nice to know

Yes it is lol. It’s literally just haki overflowing through his blades

 

[Lor D. Coast]

So skypia/enles lobby 108 = thriller bark/sabaody 108? Nice to know

Exactly, otherwise it wouldn't be 108 pounds.

Yes it is lol. It’s literally just haki overflowing through his blades

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1823744603457028531

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Zoro can now casually use KoH(without adv CoC)
Sanji can use now casually IJ
Luffy can now casually use G4(parts) and even spamm G5.

Monstertrio right now would mid-high diff their Wano versions.

 

[Albino 👑]

Exactly, otherwise it wouldn't be 108 pounds.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1823744603457028531

 

[JoNdule]

Honestly this chapter doesn't disprove that the Elephant gun in the last chapter was actual G4 move
Like bruh the main reason people didn't think it was G4 was because it was just a partial transformation when all the previous G4 uses were full transformation
And now here we are, with Luffy once again uses a "partial transformation" G4. So unless Oda made the same mistakes twice
So this just proves it even more imo

Do you even read yourself before typing?

Did you look at the g4 Kong Gun he did and the white attack, and told yourself both are g4 moves?
G4 doesn't have whip attacks ! It also doesn't have elephant naming

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Apparently this is the same:

And:

Also Humpty Dumpty, we've already seen how it looks like when Luffy kicks in G4:

Or how he punches in G4:

Or how he uses Kong Rifle:

The first picture above doesn't have the same G4 compression, it looks visually the exact same like a G3 technique and Luffy's leg is very overproportional compared to the ones against Doffy and Kuri. Same with his arm. It's also called "Elephant".

Partial G4 was only confirmed and shown in this chapter. Luffy personally confirmed it and it looks visually and mechanically completely different to the one used against the fodder cat.

You're this kind of guy who touches a hot iron pan, you get obviously burned but you touch it 2x again at least to make sure if it's really hot and each time you burned your hand over and over again. That's basically you in this discussion.

Yeah the attack from 2 chapters ago just doesn't look like a G4, not only it has named "Elephant..." (Which are G3 attacks), the buiild up doesn't look any different from a G3 kick :

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For it to be a G4 attack Oda would have had to completely fuck up both the naming scheme and the drawing. I think a lettering mistake about the number is more likely, considering that chapter was full of small mistakes

 

[milluki]

oda is making grandfleet important, soon luffy will sail with them to new marineford, to give a beating to the red dog.

 

[Wizak08]

Zoro can now casually use KoH(without adv CoC)
Sanji can use now casually IJ
Luffy can now casually use G4(parts) and even spamm G5.

Monstertrio right now would mid-high diff their Wano versions.

KoH was already separate than ACoC, Zoro could flow his ryuo on all three blades in Wano, we've seen him use ACoC only with Bid Dance against King. The progression for Zoro should be stronger ACoC and being able to overflow both ACoA and ACoC for a longer period of time.

 

[JoNdule]

I personally just think it’s dumb to believe zoro is the only guy to leave onigashima weaker lol

Like besides luffy, sanji, robin, kid, and laws obvious growth by being able to casually use forms that were previously extremely exhausting even usopp and franky are a lot stronger

• Franky went from strong right -> to strong impact right (egghead)
• Usopp went from green star: skull bomb grass to -> secret technique green star: skull bomb grass (this chapter)

But I’m somehow supposed to believe only zoro hasn’t grown stronger at all and would still get tossed around by king

Zoro fans are retarded

Don't worry, they will start reusing our statements in a bounty few months and claim that "Zoro has improved, he has been using KOH since Egghead against Lucci casually"

 

[AlmightyEneru]

Gear 4 to break a wall

It is the wall of a giant fortress after all

 

[HellBlazer04]

Zoro can now casually use KoH(without adv CoC)

Monstertrio right now would mid-high diff their Wano versions.

Lmao how did u come to this conclusion?
Wano Zoro would violate Current Zoro. In fact he doesn't need KoH to do that. There is not a single piece of evidence to prove that Zoro has improved since Wano. In fact EH proved that Zoro has gotten multiple times weaker since Wano based on his fights against Seraphim and Lucci.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

So Nami memorized the entire map with the accurate layout and proportions engraved in her mind? Glad Oda remembered she's supposed to be one of the highest IQ East Blue people

 

[Sentinel]

Yeah the attack from 2 chapters ago just doesn't look like a G4, not only it has named "Elephant..." (Which are G3 attacks), the buiild up doesn't look any different from a G3 kick :

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For it to be a G4 attack Oda would have had to completely fuck up both the naming scheme and the drawing. I think a lettering mistake about the number is more likely, considering that chapter was full of small mistake

Someone (Logiko was the one, dude sure has free time) actually counted all the mistakes in that chapter and he counted 22 mistakes.
Now it turned out, they were genuine mistakes, not intentional, since the strawhats weren't cast an illusion/genjutsu.

Then you have troglodytes telling you "OdA dReW iT"... yeah, let's ignore the 21 other mistakes and let's vehemently repeat the same word vomit that Oda possibly can't make a mistake in lettering and that's why others are wrong for pointing it out.

 

[HellBlazer04]

Do you even read yourself before typing?

Did you look at the g4 Kong Gun he did and the white attack, and told yourself both are g4 moves?
G4 doesn't have whip attacks ! It also doesn't have elephant naming

U must have trouble reading.
That attack was called Gear 4. Now unless Oda or Jump claims it was a mistake and corrects it in the volume, it's gonna stay the same.

Until then u can keep coping about the visuals.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Someone (Logiko was the one, dude sure has free time) actually counted all the mistakes in that chapter and he counted 22 mistakes.
Now it turned out, they were genuine mistakes, not intentional, since the strawhats weren't cast an illusion/genjutsu.

Then you have troglodytes telling you "OdA dReW iT"... yeah, let's ignore the 21 other mistakes and let's vehemently repeat the same word vomit that Oda possibly can't make a mistake in lettering and that's why others are wrong for pointing it out.

Heck, every volume there is at least one correction about the kanji used in a word

 

[Sentinel]

Lmao how did u come to this conclusion?
Wano Zoro would violate Current Zoro. In fact he doesn't need KoH to do that. There is not a single piece of evidence to prove that Zoro has improved since Wano. In fact EH proved that Zoro has gotten multiple times weaker since Wano based on his fights against Seraphim and Lucci.

......
Only the One Piece fandom argues main characters actually got weaker after an arc (unless it's explicitly told so, like Buu Saga Gohan who didn't train for years). Nothing surprises me anymore.

 

[moreha9685]

So Nami memorized the entire map with the accurate layout and proportions engraved in her mind? Glad Oda remembered she's supposed to be one of the highest IQ East Blue people

Oda: "Now that Filler Piece has ended and the final, proper saga has begun, let me resurrect the actual SHs, and not the imposters we've been following since the time skip."

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

KoH was already separate than ACoC, Zoro could flow his ryuo on all three blades in Wano, we've seen him use ACoC only with Bid Dance against King. The progression for Zoro should be stronger ACoC and being able to overflow both ACoA and ACoC for a longer period of time.

That is what im saying, Zoro now doesn't need to use adv CoC with Black lightning, he can now casually use KoH without adv CoC and only use it if he really needs it.

Same as Sanji who also got improved, can now casually use IJ. In wano both could barely hold on with their new forms because of stamina issues.

Same as Law got improved and casually used awakening and even stronger haki against Teach.

The strawhats keep getting stronger.
Current Zoro>Wano Zoro
Current Sanji>Wano Sanji
Current Luffy>Wano Luffy

 

[Albino 👑]

King > punk hazard zoro > wano zoro > elbaf zoro
By the time zoro beats mihawk he’ll be even weaker than his East blue self