The thing is, despite of me arguing in favor of the Admirals a lot in the past few months (especially if it's about idiotic claims like "Shiryu > Kuzan", "Lucci = Kizaru"), I still have my Yonko~Admiral scaling and I'd definitely put Mihawk above most Admirals bar Akainu due to his portrayal but bad powerscalers still believe it's correct to put Admirals as low top tiers or anything similar like that when the story demonstrated countless times how they're also part of the strongest individuals in the world.
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upload image they talk about the hakiless slam when this is garp after a hakiless woodbat strike from a fodder
@Sentinel
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By your own statement, Kuzan isn't even the 2nd titanic captain. He's the 10th, so how is he the YC2 among the BBP? You brought up Ace, thanks for that. Ace held the same position like Oden who was viewed as a brother by Whitebeard in contrast to the other crew members who are his children. Unlike Marco, Jozu, Vista and Co, Ace was also destined to rise far above the other commanders as he had a very promising future. It isn't comparable to Sanji nor Queen (how tf is even HE relevant???) when it comes to Ace, Oden and Kuzan.
You wish Shiryu was Oden...
Blackbeard didn't even talk to Shiryu when he heard how Garp was captured. He praised Kuzan for it.
By your own statement, Kuzan isn't even the 2nd titanic captain. He's the 10th, so how is he the YC2 among the BBP? You brought up Ace, thanks for that. Ace held the same position like Oden who was viewed as a brother by Whitebeard in contrast to the other crew members who are his children. Unlike Marco, Jozu, Vista and Co, Ace was also destined to rise far above the other commanders as he had a very promising future. It isn't comparable to Sanji nor Queen (how tf is even HE relevant???) when it comes to Ace, Oden and Kuzan.
You wish Shiryu was Oden...
Blackbeard didn't even talk to Shiryu when he heard how Garp was captured. He praised Kuzan for it.
Ace wasn't the brother dumbass 
He was also son.
Counting Oden's days
Shiryu - Oden
You will accept this later when we knows Shiryu is coming from Wano too
Kuzan is nobody because Ace hasn't joined yet during Oden era just like Kuzan joined the latest
In Marco's days
Shiryu - Marco the YC1
Kuzan - Ace the logia, rebellious YC2
Both even stalemated each other in MF
He was also son.
Counting Oden's days
Shiryu - Oden
You will accept this later when we knows Shiryu is coming from Wano too
Kuzan is nobody because Ace hasn't joined yet during Oden era just like Kuzan joined the latest
In Marco's days
Shiryu - Marco the YC1
Kuzan - Ace the logia, rebellious YC2
Both even stalemated each other in MF
Looks way cleaner than zoro getting sent flying by king in a rock ,zoro whos a durability monster
Shiryu got up took the sword outta his chest and laughed,garp couldnt even move after that
Shiryu got up took the sword outta his chest and laughed,garp couldnt even move after that
Yes, great, Shiryu got up from a hakiless slam. I suppose it's great that he wasn't knocked out or what???
Shiryu broke through Garp's Haki which is his actual good feat but the fact that he was immediately bloodied and sweated like crazy from a hakiless slam is embarrassing. No matter how much you try to spin around it.
Ace wasn't the brother dumbass
He was also son.
Counting Oden's days
Shiryu - Oden
You will accept this later when we knows Shiryu is coming from Wano too
Kuzan is nobody because Ace hasn't joined yet during Oden era just like Kuzan joined the latest
In Marco's days
Shiryu - Marco the YC1
Kuzan - Ace the logia, rebellious YC2
Both even stalemated each other in MF
He was also son.
Counting Oden's days
Shiryu - Oden
You will accept this later when we knows Shiryu is coming from Wano too
Kuzan is nobody because Ace hasn't joined yet during Oden era just like Kuzan joined the latest
In Marco's days
Shiryu - Marco the YC1
Kuzan - Ace the logia, rebellious YC2
Both even stalemated each other in MF
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