Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1138 Spoilers Discussion

[Worst]

Loki has no haki defense at all right now

if he ( ofc he will ) survive all of this and then beats the shit out of Shamrock his stocks are going to the moon...

 

[Etzel Andergast]

The closer we get from the end, the discussion of Teach vs Imu for final villain will become more often

 

[Fujishiro]

Yes this is the dragon

Oh I see what you are saying. Imo both are the same thing, full zoan and the other is hybrid the left figure still has what looks like a crown behind the horns. And it makes sense that its Imu because in that panel its Joyboy and Emeth and co fighting the winged creature.

 

[Roo]

It was engulfed in darkness as a result of the war though?

The key word is darkness, that's Teach whole theme. He's the darkness that covers the sun, it is quite literally told to us

 

[Sir Yasheen]

How can't people see that Imu creates and upholds order while Blackbeard destroys and literally brings darkness. He's way closer to the winged demon than Imu.

He doesn’t. The book of Harley specifically calls Imus world a world of chaos in the first sentence.

The marines uphold order and justice; but Imus world is chaos.

 

[Fujishiro]

Imu means void btw @SakazOuki

 

[Zoroe]

Who is Blackbeard oppressing right now? In fact who has he been oppressing the entire manga? Vs Imu and the WG oppressing the entire OP world? The earth god is the main villain and he was an oppressor he literally had the entire planet enslaved before Nika showed up answering the peoples prayers to fight him.

Imagine saying BB is a fucking oppressor when Imu has a bunch of people(Tenryuubitos) raping woman, enslaving, torturing and killing for fun. Like wtf???

 

[Fujishiro]

The key word is darkness, that's Teach whole theme. He's the darkness that covers the sun, it is quite literally told to us

That doesnt answer my question lol, the earth god and the serpent fought against Nika and co and the result was death and darkness. All this means is that BB is an important player in the war not that hes the final villain.

 

[Flower]

Tfw you are reading this thread while waiting for Tech Support to answer your phone kek.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Who destroyed the first world was the serpent by the way

 

[Fujishiro]

Who destroyed the first world was the serpent by the way

No it was the earth god and serpent vs Nika and the rest. The serpent is likely the red line.

 

[Roo]

Blackbeard is just a pirate. Imu didn’t know Luffy was a god at this point so idk what you mean gods??

But Oda knew, that's the fucking point lmao. Oda is showing us via Imu's actions.

Imu is shown to have the power of hellfire under his control as the Gorosei have black flames that are connected to Imu that give them unique abilities such as immortality and regeneration.

This is a reach, Lucci and Kaku have those flames and do not have regen. Plus they are not actual flames.

Imu is the final villain the creator of the third world and the destroyer of the creator of the second world. Just like Luffy will create the fourth world and destroy the creator of the third world when he bests Imu.

and the first world doesn't exist? Despite it's key at hinting that the cycle being bigger and Imu and Joyboy?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Who destroyed the first world was the serpent by the way

Hmmm I wonder how Imus subordinates have the power of the black flames… surely there can’t be a connection to a “hellfire” serpent

 

[Lord Melkor]

Tfw you are reading this thread while waiting for Tech Support to answer your phone kek.

This chapter is pretty interesting, finally more info on the world's mythology.

Do you have a take whether BB or Imu will be Luffy's final fight?

 

[Roo]

That doesnt answer my question lol, the earth god and the serpent fought against Nika and co and the result was death and darkness. All this means is that BB is an important player in the war not that hes the final villain.

The fact that these creatures fought the original nika, not joyboy leads credence that whoever is their successor is the final villain

We argue that person is Blackbeard

 

[SakazOuki]

No one mentioned how gigachad Franky is at the center of the mural, if this was Zoro or Sanji everyone would go nuts

 

[Fujishiro]

But Oda knew, that's the fucking point lmao. Oda is showing us via Imu's actions.



This is a reach, Lucci and Kaku have those flames and do not have regen. Plus they are not actual flames.



and the first world doesn't exist? Despite it's key at hinting that the cycle being bigger and Imu and Joyboy?

Imu gave them immortality and regeneration and likely a part of his power. Thats not what a dragon fruit does @SakazOuki hes clearly the devil granting people power. Dragon in ancient language also means devil btw.

 

[RayanOO]

Don’t know if someone pointed it already but WsW looks fucking cool in that cover

 

[Fujishiro]

The fact that these creatures fought the original nika, not joyboy leads credence that whoever is their successor is the final villain

We argue that person is Blackbeard

Except the main villain is the earth god fam not whatever assisted him.

 

[Roo]

Don’t know if someone pointed it already but WsW looks fucking cool in that cover

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