Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1139 Spoilers Discussion

[Wizak08]

Luffy took a hit for sure, but in the long run Zoro will suffer more from this because Luffy will defeat opponents twice(+) as strong as Zoro and Sanji's opponents like always. Zoro and Sanji's major opponents are pretty much glued together status wise.

Better pray Mihawk comes after the final battles. This will be the only thing to even remotely separate them, if Mihawk comes before, then Zoro and Sanji's final opponents will be once again grouped together with Luffy fighting the leader or w.e the case may be.

This isn't changing anything, Rayleigh was already confirmed below Roger ans above Gaban in that spread and Zoro has two characters above him as his ceiling. The high diff isn't changing.

 

[Albino 👑]

Zoro and Rayleigh = powers of the underworld/hell both wanna be brooks
Sanji and Gaban = powers of love

 

[AL sama]

Where?
Ray and Gaban were already pre decided to be the right and left hand man.
Who tf ever called Oden the right hand or left hand.
Post Roger crew oden is way stronger.
But somehow Gaban > Oden , and Oden makes it to Top of 5 kaidou with legends like Roger , Whitebeard, Shanks , Xebec.

But no , GABAN >~ Kaidou and Oden.

I know but I m asking who is luffy's oden??

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Because they can't beat Kaido

Oden made it clear : IF HE ODEN FAILS, THEN NOBODY FROM HIS ERA NOR AFTER CAN BEAT KAIDO except JOYBOY with HELP

Primebeard knew he can't beat kaido 1v1
Sickbeard knew he can't ever win
Shanks couldn't do it 2 years ago
Scopper and Ray are afraid, they know they'd lose

Honestly this is the best explanation

Luffy was the only one who could do it. Not because he’s stronger than WB or Shanks but because he has divine plot armor via the Nika prophecy.

 

[SakazOuki]

Still no explanation to why Rayleigh is called Dark King

He like young black chicks

 

[ZenZu]

That doesn't make sense
If he doesn't get the power ups and feats to back up your claim in the future then this is irrelevant like arlong = jinbe

Nah this is nothing like Arlong = Jimbei.

Sanji is one of the mcs who will always have screen time, he doesn't need the exact feats, he just needs to fight opponents of the same stature, and that will be enough for this panel to carry them through. Unfortunate as it may be, it's part of the game. It is over dawg.

 

[Roo]

Again if Kaido was afraid he could simply had her locked up or throw her in the sea. Which he didn't.

And it also shows the monster Kaido was.

Kaido wasn’t afraid, what he was was practical. Like I’ve said it’s not about being afraid but just not picking fights with people. Gaban didn’t want the hassle of fighting the Beast pirates including Kaido

I mean the fact is he knows Luffy beat Kaido and still wants to test him

 

[Wh1p]

Anyone who thinks Gaban is equal to Roger in combat power needs to be institutionalized.

 

[Hiragaro]

Why are people so dumb? Loki is weaker than Top Tiers, but that doesn't mean you should let someone like that run wild.
Take Kid for example, Shanks one shoted him, but what if Shanks didn't have FS? Kid would have taken out his entire Fleet before he would know what happened.
People like that, despite being weaker are stil a huge threat and cause a shit ton of damage.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Still no explanation to why Rayleigh is called Dark King

Just because

 

[Franosuke]

I was talking about defeating opponents not just fighting them, Zoro was relegated back to King while Sanji took on Queen, while Luffy finished Kaidou. That's not even the point though, the point is you can sit there writing essays of feats, and a Sanji fan can now till the end of time just respond with a single panel from this chapter, and all you will have is an Arthur fist. This isn't about the fine details, Sanji fans won. Its over.

This also applies to Luffy and Zoro though. Luffy fans can write essays about all of his feats and major fights and power-ups until the end of time to get hit in the face with this panel. And that's all I care about lmao

 

[Dragon777]

Oden wasn't a member of Roger's crew
He was part of the wb crew
Like Marco boarded Shanks ship
Even in the wb crew, Oden's place was empty for years
Rocks used advcoc in his first serious move and was introduced as Roger's greatest enemy
Stupid comparison

Stupid replay: literally Roger's pirates themselves said Oden was One of them.

In this chapter we are told that among Roger pirates, Ray and Gaban > all the rest.

 

[The DevilMaster]

@MonsterKaido @The DevilMaster my condolences my guys, yall really got baited hard by Kaido’s fake hype


Gaban knows Luffy beat Kaido but doesn’t think Luffy can beat Woki

Loki is just another person afraid of kaidou. LOL

 

[omegalul]

Again if Kaido was afraid he could simply had her locked up or throw her in the sea. Which he didn't.

And it also shows the monster Kaido was.

shanks gonna cash in on all of that kaido hype as well when oda shows that scuffle, man's already bagged loki's hype

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Didn't know ledon was viz

His translations are = viz lol

you done

 

[Sentinel]

Where?
Ray and Gaban were already pre decided to be the right and left hand man.
Who tf ever called Oden the right hand or left hand.
Post Roger crew oden is way stronger.
But somehow Gaban > Oden , and Oden makes it to Top of 5 kaidou with legends like Roger , Whitebeard, Shanks , Xebec.

But no , GABAN >~ Kaidou and Oden.

Oh Cruxroux is back again???

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Anyone who thinks Gaban is equal to Roger in combat power needs to be institutionalized.

Guess you need to go tell Oda to check into an institution.

 

[JoNdule]

objectively false

It's fact

Kaido knew their might and saw them at God valleynand afterwards

Tell that to WB, Shiki, BM, Kaido for never hyping Rayleigh and Scooper

Why is it always Oden?

 

[HA001]

Nah this is nothing like Arlong = Jimbei.

Sanji doesn't need feats, he just needs to fight opponents of the same stature, and that will be enough for this panel to carry them through. Unfortunate as it may be, it's part of the game. It is over dawg.

That would be the power up and feats.

As of now. He has basic haki.
He can't hurt kaido which is luffy and zoro a couple power ups ago.
And his strongest attack did nothing to luffy

 

[Wh1p]

Guess you need to go tell Oda to check into an institution.

Your poor reading comprehension is showing.