Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1140: 'Scopper Gaban'

[Roo]

His hype is gone. His power level has been power crept.

Ain’t not shame in losing to an admiral

 

[NAMELESS]

Ain’t not shame in losing to an admiral

Yeah, best case scenario, he gets rescued by Marco. Has a gag fight with him. Joins Crossguild and ends up fighting a straw hat. Sanji, Jinbe and Franky are possible match ups.

 

[Jailer]

So how I think this arc plays out

HKs group kidnap the kids and Robin (Sanji and Jinbe job to the HKs)

Luffy’s group goes to release Loki, he’s in critical condition

HK group needs to wait for their ships to arrive, request back up and the entire group is going to elbaf

SHs learn of the news and prepare for a battle, gives time for Loki to heal and assist in battle

HKs vs SHs + Loki

SHs meet with Gaban at the end of the arc for the final poneglyph

There’s probably a lot more with Kid, Urouge and Bonney but I think that’s basically the roadmap

@Paperchampion23

There's uncertainities, like this chapter made it seem Shamrock will be needed to remain in holyland for whatever reason

There's no true main antagonist of the arc unless it's Loki, Loki might target his anger to anyone related to the WG, based off hype one or two of them are gonna bite the dust to him

Maybe he will then escape somewhere until he recovers. Like even if Harald may have wanted to be a World Noble, Loki aint right in the head the same guy who at a young age burned villages for sport, and he outright said he wants to destroy the world.

Gaban's comments and warnings etc.

 

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

Next arc must be Mary Geoise

 

[Sentinel]

Ain’t not shame in losing to an admiral

At least Weevil didn't end up like King and Queen.

 

[Jailer]

At least Weevil didn't end up like King and Queen.

King and Queen who were still recovering, without flame mode

 

[Terra Arseid7]

Forcing Luffy and zoro to full power, making them sweat is impressing.

Another clown.... god

Named attack? No
Hellfire? No
ADVcoc? No
Santoryu attack? No
Ashura? No

Gaban surrenders immediately? Yes

 

[Roo]

IMO:
Holy knights kidnap kids -> Saul tells Robin to run, away she refuses cause she gets a flashback of ohara so Saul knocks her out and chopper carries her to safety

Luffy releases Loki -> They have to carry loki to the sun world but everyone refuses to treat him and they try to stop Luffy and recapture Loki (straw hats vs Giants)

Loki eventually wakes up and tells the truth of what happened when Harald died

The giants and straw hats make amends, robin wakes up and everyone runs to the school to find the children missing

A large invasion force is seen coming to Elbaf (the WG ships to pick up the kids) however, most of them begin to sink because of Gaban creating whirlpools on his ship

Luffy Zoro And Nami are told who that is. (Cue dumb face gag)

HKs summon more people through the abyss including Gorosei

WG vs SHs and Elbaf

Wait I just realized

the 5 Gorosei and 9 or so HKs vs SHs

how do the SHs stand a chance lol

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Wait I just realized

the 5 Gorosei and 9 or so HKs vs SHs

how do the SHs stand a chance lol

IMO it’ll only be 4 Gorosei. Garling and Shamrock will be simultaneously leading the seraphim in an assault on the Revolutionaries.

 

[NotHereForSpoilers]

Marine power scale I’m thinking

IMU > Gorosei > Commander in chief > Fleet admiral > Holy knights besides Shamrock ( maybe some other unrevealed ones) would be above admiral >=

I’m having a hard time powerscaling them cause dragon says the real battle starts when they’re deployed. Nobody felt that way when it came to the admirals (respectfully)

They also work directly with gorosei/IMU, they all have mythical zoans / super powerful fruits, and one of them was next in line to be a gorosei (garling) which admirals don’t even have that privilege

I boiled it down to there’s probably gonna be a few under admiral level, at admiral level, and above admiral level

 

[Roo]

IMO it’ll only be 4 Gorosei. Garling and Shamrock will be simultaneously leading the seraphim in an assault on the Revolutionaries.

So 12 WG agents vs SHs + Loki and Bonney I assume?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

So 12 WG agents vs SHs + Loki and Bonney I assume?

Overall I can see
Kizaru + 4 Gorosei + 8 HKs vs Straw Hats + Army of Elbaf + Bonney + Loki

Which genuinely feels like a pretty fair fight with the hype surrounding Elbaf.

 

[MarineHQ]

It's obvious Loki will end up as an ally but I hope he won't immediately fight alongside Luffy.

Also it more and more looks like he'll solo the Holy Knights.

 

[Roo]

Overall I can see
Kizaru + 4 Gorosei + 8 HKs vs Straw Hats + Army of Elbaf + Bonney + Loki

Which genuinely feels like a pretty fair fight with the hype surrounding Elbaf.

Oda loves his 1v1s

replace the army or elbaf with a guy like Urouge or Kid and I can see it happening

Maybe the giants can form a fleet to defeat the surviving ships

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Oda loves his 1v1s

replace the army or elbaf with a guy like Urouge or Kid and I can see it happening

Maybe the giants can form a fleet to defeat the surviving ships

Honestly yeah I think the new Giant warriors (Hajrudins crew) will assist the weak trio straw hats in fighting their HK counterpart tho

 

[NotHereForSpoilers]

Wait I just realized

the 5 Gorosei and 9 or so HKs vs SHs

how do the SHs stand a chance lol

Well in the final war panel it was just IMU and the gorosei so I assume the holy knights fall before that just not sure where

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

There's uncertainities, like this chapter made it seem Shamrock will be needed to remain in holyland for whatever reason

There's no true main antagonist of the arc unless it's Loki, Loki might target his anger to anyone related to the WG, based off hype one or two of them are gonna bite the dust to him

Maybe he will then escape somewhere until he recovers. Like even if Harald may have wanted to be a World Noble, Loki aint right in the head the same guy who at a young age burned villages for sport, and he outright said he wants to destroy the world.

Gaban's comments and warnings etc.

Loki is obviously an ally. Holy knights probably dominate until Usopp runs away with the key and frees Loki or something

 

[NotHereForSpoilers]

Overall I can see
Kizaru + 4 Gorosei + 8 HKs vs Straw Hats + Army of Elbaf + Bonney + Loki

Which genuinely feels like a pretty fair fight with the hype surrounding Elbaf.

Gorosei don’t fall in Elbalf imo

War panel shows IMU & Gorosei vs joy boy alliance which was meant to parallel end of story war with the straw hat alliance

It makes me wonder though on that mural there’s 6 Gorosei on that ship and one of them being SUPER tiny compared to the others

But anyway I can see kizaru showing back up and more holy knights getting summoned

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Gorosei don’t fall in Elbalf imo

War panel shows IMU & Gorosei vs joy boy alliance which was meant to parallel end of story war with the straw hat alliance

It makes me wonder though on that mural there’s 6 Gorosei on that ship and one of them being SUPER tiny compared to the others

But anyway I can see kizaru showing back up and more holy knights getting summoned

The Gorosei are replaceable. I don’t see the WG as it is surviving all the way through to EOS too many things happening simultaneously and the CDs currently starving.

 

[Jailer]

Loki is obviously an ally. Holy knights probably dominate until Usopp runs away with the key and frees Loki or something

3 dudes aren't gonna dominate giant elbaph warriors, straw hats, gaban lol.