Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1140 Spoilers Discussion

How strong was Prime Gaban ?


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why though? the Sh want to find the treasure the Roger pirates did in their own adventure. They don't want more info then they already got about Roger(the basics)
Why would any of that undermine the curiosity with regards to an old dude that just happens to show up at the right time and know where the key is?
 
History dictates he has to have CoC, my conditions are he does not have a DF, or some other genetic advantage (lunarian, dna modifications etc.). We have yet to see a top tier without either a maxed out DF or maxed out haki aspect, Gaban would be the first...
Equal to Roger and Rayleigh without Devil Fruit or ACOC, is it even possible? wouldn't he just be flat out stronger than them if he had COC from his parents
 
Equal to Roger and Rayleigh without Devil Fruit or ACOC, is it even possible? wouldn't he just be flat out stronger than them if he had COC from his parents
Honestly it would be better for the power system

having the top tier be a adCoC club is lame, like super saiyan only club in dragon ball lame
 

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A handful of the very strongest should only be solid top tiers IMHO

Seeing these old legends definitely shows us that Kid, Law and Yamato definitely are not there yet.

I doubted them
That's the reader's perspective. We heard similar things about FS too, and it's baseline is currently Katakuri from the author's perspective. So we can say Yamato's probably the baseline for what Oda perceives as a handful of the very strongest. Forget these 3, even Zoro isn't up there with the legends yet, which I've been preaching for a long time, and even he has ACoC. To his credit, his AP is at least top-tier though.
 
first oda had zoro stop yonko cocless attack (wano), then class with nusjuro overwelming advcoc haki (egghead) and finaly efforlessly stop a top tier named attack coated with top tier haki leaking gigantic black lightnning (elbaf). I love the development, zoro has now proven he can stop top serious top tier named attack.
 
Luffy senses his powerful Haki and gets a worried funny expression:risistare:

Luffy barely dodges the attack and Zoro stops part of it with his 3 swords”:risitears:

“Luffy is in G5 and Zoro has lightning all over his swords”:risiflip:

Old retired Ripley eater Waban forcing the Yonko and his RHM into their strongest forms by just flexing his Haki:risiflip:yea this summary cooked
They should have said this sooner I wouldn't have got crazy
 
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