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A lot to unpack
So Oda really used Nami to navigate Luffy and Zoro nothing more nothing less , Usopp being drunk is interesting can’t remember the last time we saw him like this if ever, still fits the character I guess. Luffy and Zoro conversations are great it seems Sanji and the giants are there too. Loki is somewhat loose but he’s here in front of the strongest protagonists of Elbaf. He may be a fraction of his strength if Seastone is on the cuffs , smart of Zoro leaving that on his leg.
 
Now that you mention it.. He should have mentioned it for Yamato too if she was using it. It makes sense why you'd say that.
Like if Flampe of all people could notice Luffy was using CoC then GB surely would go nuts over an ACoC user right?


My guess is that we have just been assuming and affirming black lighting as Coc too often. The next time Luffy uses Acoc in base is probably gonna be he first time he uses it after wano
My theory is that he still has a 'training arc' for ACoC, it'll be either in Elbaf or just before/just after he fights Shanks. That would be his next power-up learning how to use ACoC in other ways that Shanks could like WiFi haki, DF negation, and observation killing
 
Why didn't Sanji meet Gaban?:lusalty:
I assume they will at some point. but it would be a seperate scene. I dont mind because Loki is hype, but tbh, it is a weird situation of how much rush the SH were to free him. They knew that someone who looked like Shanks attacked the guards and even met Gaban, but they rushed to go free Loki instead of adressing the other things much
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I´ve got to say, while I do like Gaban, his intro is very disappointing compared to Rayleigh
 
Hype aside
It's difficult to see Loki fight, let alone be a threat to the M3 in his current state. Even now he still bound by ankle seastone chain
Yet Oda having Nami (who he doesn't like drawing getting beat up) go back to the party and bringing Sanji down makes me believe that shit is about to get real. He usually reunite the M3 for battle stuff so I doubt Loki just going to talk.
 
Hype aside
It's difficult to see Loki fight, let alone be a threat to the M3 in his current state. Even now he still bound by ankle seastone chain
Yet Oda having Nami (who he doesn't like drawing getting beat up) go back to the party and bringing Sanji down makes me believe that shit is about to get real. He usually reunite the M3 for battle stuff so I doubt Loki just going to talk.
We also have to keep in mind that they know Luffy is a Yonko and they just defeated Kaido & Big Mom xD

Loki is likely the real deal but yeah hard to see him stomping anyone here
 
I feel like part of the problem is that people are a lot less interested in Roger now post time skip. Everyone and the 8 year old kid with a fake kaido fruit has met him. We have actual flashbacks of him now. Meanwhile, it´s more like Joyboy is the mysterious guy post time skip(and was intro´d in the very first arc of it). Though if Gaban can tell us a bit about God valley, that can be a big deal
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Same thing happened in Naruto, when the fourth hokage stopped being the most hyped compared to the first in shippuden
 
I feel like part of the problem is that people are a lot less interested in Roger now post time skip. Everyone and the 8 year old kid with a fake kaido fruit has met him. We have actual flashbacks of him now. Meanwhile, it´s more like Joyboy is the mysterious guy post time skip(and was intro´d in the very first arc of it). Though if Gaban can tell us a bit about God valley, that can be a big deal
Roger did what he intended to to ,he was the precursor for this new era .
He set everything into motion ,its not like people lost interest imo it‘s more like post time skip we figured out this thing is way bigger then we at first thought.
 
Roger did what he intended to to ,he was the precursor for this new era .
He set everything into motion ,its not like people lost interest imo it‘s more like post time skip we figured out this thing is way bigger then we at first thought.
I agree, but pre time skip, anything being associated with Roger was shocking and interesting. At this point, not really, with the exception of God Valley.
 
Loki gonna be hyped for sure. I just hope when we get a fight against Luffy 1v1, it's amazing. Loki doesn't seem to be the main villain but even so Luffy accomplishing what Shanks did or close would be nice by him beating or overwhelming Loki. For now, Luffy has Zoro and Sanji with him, so it'll be interesting how Oda handles this. Obviously Hajurdin's crew getting wrecked is expected, but I'm interested in how he does against the Monster Trio. I don't think he'll beat the 3, but I can see Oda going all out on Loki hype (large-scale attacks against all 3 and such that's impressive in scale), especially with the guy not being able to use his fruit.

The Holy Knights making their move now would work since the strongest members are pre-occupied. It could be really cool to see the rest of the crew notice what the Holy Knights are up to and a clash ensues. I guess we'd see just how strong the Holy Knights are and it would give the other Straw Hats something important to do (Franky already is, but most are just around).
 
I agree, but pre time skip, anything being associated with Roger was shocking and interesting. At this point, not really, with the exception of God Valley.
Yeah cause we thought being Pirate King is the pinnacle of everything ,but as it stands right now Pirate King is an step to achieving what Oda is building up.
Yeah God Valley should be interesting again,and i think Laugh Tale as well cause we will learn why the Roger Pirates decided to gave everything into the hands of fate and just wait .
Sure Poseidon wasn‘t born and Luffy at that point as well,the 2 Kings the SeaKings talked about.

On the other hand ,Roger had everything in his hands the knowledge where all Ancient Weapons where ,the Void Century and what waits on Laugh Tale as well .

With the Mural being revealed ,maybe Roger at that time knew with everything they had at that time it still wasn‘t enough ,looking at all those Monster from the Mural.
Can‘t wait for their POV from 20 years ago
 
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