Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1146 Spoilers Discussion
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Thats assuming Imu can give immortality with no limits, and I believe there might be a limit for that so that could be the reason why he killed Saturn instead of simply putting him in a prison. Perhaps he needed to kill one of the Gorosei or another one to make someone immortal so the new ones can replace them.
He keeping it real first Luffy then Usopp now even Sommers thinks the giants are washed 
Elbaf the biggest L nation in the world
Elbaf the biggest L nation in the world
Guess they were just expecting everyone to be a warriors .
Then again a whole nation giants warriors can be taken out by one admrial or yonko etc etc .
They just want high level fodder to use in the war.
There's also sommers asking sham if they were here to visit Harold's grave.
That's not something you do for people you don't know or your enemies. That's something you do for your allies.
And the way he said it this chapter feels like he's admonishing harold for not doing a better job. Meaning harold was tasked with it.
I think, Harold was a traitor at first. But, sometime before he actually died, he came to his senses. And he understood that if the wg get the warrior nation version of elbaf, its game over for the rest of the world. So he basically mandated elbaf to become more peaceful and tried to make the next generation passive. All the while still keeping his cover as a wg agent. But, imu somehow learned of his betrayal and did something to him to make him go berserk.
Which is when Loki comes in. Harold with his last semblance of sanity, asked Loki to kill him. Loki did that. But Jarul, who was supposed to prove Loki's innocence, got stabbed in the head and lost his memories. When he came to, he saw Loki standing over Harold's body, and Loki basically became the father killer.
This way, Harold gets redeemed, Loki is good guy, and Jarul is also good.
Classic oda style story telling.
That's not something you do for people you don't know or your enemies. That's something you do for your allies.
And the way he said it this chapter feels like he's admonishing harold for not doing a better job. Meaning harold was tasked with it.
I think, Harold was a traitor at first. But, sometime before he actually died, he came to his senses. And he understood that if the wg get the warrior nation version of elbaf, its game over for the rest of the world. So he basically mandated elbaf to become more peaceful and tried to make the next generation passive. All the while still keeping his cover as a wg agent. But, imu somehow learned of his betrayal and did something to him to make him go berserk.
Which is when Loki comes in. Harold with his last semblance of sanity, asked Loki to kill him. Loki did that. But Jarul, who was supposed to prove Loki's innocence, got stabbed in the head and lost his memories. When he came to, he saw Loki standing over Harold's body, and Loki basically became the father killer.
This way, Harold gets redeemed, Loki is good guy, and Jarul is also good.
Classic oda style story telling.
But think about the original plan
The WG has been wanting to flood the world seemingly before any of this… their previous plan didn’t even involve starting a war… So they didn’t need the Giants as mercenaries in their previous plan
the original plan was that The world gets flooded without anyone prepared. The only TWO places that are left above the sea level are Mariejois and Elbaf… And so The WG had to make Elbaf not a threat… Hence the school
I think the WG were involved with Harald making the Elbaf giants not warriors anymore for their original plan to prevent the Giants from retaliating after the world gets flooded… But now that War in imminent, the WG now wants the Giants as mercenaries but their original plan backfired on them since the Giants are weak now.
The WG has been wanting to flood the world seemingly before any of this… their previous plan didn’t even involve starting a war… So they didn’t need the Giants as mercenaries in their previous plan
the original plan was that The world gets flooded without anyone prepared. The only TWO places that are left above the sea level are Mariejois and Elbaf… And so The WG had to make Elbaf not a threat… Hence the school
I think the WG were involved with Harald making the Elbaf giants not warriors anymore for their original plan to prevent the Giants from retaliating after the world gets flooded… But now that War in imminent, the WG now wants the Giants as mercenaries but their original plan backfired on them since the Giants are weak now.
I think it’s just a change in plans for the WG… The WG wasn’t planning on using the giants as Mercenaries until this Vegapunk stuff kicked off a war
I think Harald was sincere. For whatever reason he was against violence. And he did sincerely want to change elbaf’s culture… and the WG exploited this as a way of making Elbaf weak
Loki killed him because Harald was fine working with the WG just to remove elbaf’s war culture.
this was all fine for the WG… until recently when they came back to Elbaf wanting mercenaries yet they already weakened the Country
I think Harald was sincere. For whatever reason he was against violence. And he did sincerely want to change elbaf’s culture… and the WG exploited this as a way of making Elbaf weak
Loki killed him because Harald was fine working with the WG just to remove elbaf’s war culture.
this was all fine for the WG… until recently when they came back to Elbaf wanting mercenaries yet they already weakened the Country
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