Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1146 Spoilers Discussion

Who is Gunko?


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Jinbe got an upper hand, but still needed the fight to be interrupted by someone else because he couldn’t finish it.

Jinbe looked stronger than Moriah, but not by much.

And Jinbe was a good bit weaker than Sanji in PH we saw that in Onigashima just how big the gap was.
Nah, Jinbei looked way better. He basically ignored Moriah’s attack and blitzed him. The big thing about Jinbei’s portrayal as well was that he was able to hold off Akainu a bunch of times. He blocked one of Akainu’s attacks and endured direct hits to the gut. Jinbei’s portrayal in Marineford was clean.
 
If the God Knights can do this, then Saturn should be able to as well, right? In that case, when Luffy captured Kizaru and Saturn, why didn’t Saturn escape? Or why didn’t he quickly kill Vegapunk?
Luffy capture Saturn for less for few seconds and then throw him away they was no reason for him to teleport out to escape and the luffy attack did not even work .
Also we know why he did not kill VP fast cause he was arrogant fucker.
He could kill him countless times but he want him watch bonney suffer and then he wanted him watch the island he made destroy .
When time came and he get really angry it was easy for him stab him which basically kill him and Kizaru stab speed up things since VP said he was already dead after Saturn stab.
 
You guys need to understand that Saul shouldn't be compared to any Vice Admiral if you know how Oda treats characters even from same "ranks"

Someone like Saul is probably only weaker than John Giant and The Candidates out of all modern Vice Admirals
 
Scenario 1: All HKs are immortal so that there is a weakness and people that dont have CoC or part of some D clan bullshit can fight them and defeat them, same as Gorosei.

Scenario 2: Only Gunko is immortal from the HKs and its possible because Garlin was not immortal and aged, and thats when its possible that only CoC users and D clan bullshit people ( Like Law) will defeat the Gorosei.

Gunko switches sides as shes a fan of Brook idk anymore.
i like the coc idea
would make sense why that type pf haki was so important
 
Nah, Jinbei looked way better. He basically ignored Moriah’s attack and blitzed him. The big thing about Jinbei’s portrayal as well was that he was able to hold off Akainu a bunch of times. He blocked one of Akainu’s attacks and endured direct hits to the gut. Jinbei’s portrayal in Marineford was clean.
Again, that was one exchange. Doesn’t stop Moriah being fine after the attack and Jinbe needing curiel to step in to separate from Moriah.

Using one moment to say one fighter >>> another would be like using carrot attacking Zoro to say Carrot is comparable to him.

He didn’t block Akainus attack, his entire hand got burnt to hell despite him using ice cold water to try and mitigate the hit. And that kind of endurance is plot reliance. And didn’t stop other warlords having to pick up Jinbes slack here because he was too weak to even run away.

Jinbe was portrayed as one of the weakest warlords. Only slightly above Moriah who was even too weak to be one.
 
Again, that was one exchange. Doesn’t stop Moriah being fine after the attack and Jinbe needing curiel to step in to separate from Moriah.

Using one moment to say one fighter >>> another would be like using carrot attacking Zoro to say Carrot is comparable to him.

He didn’t block Akainus attack, his entire hand got burnt to hell despite him using ice cold water to try and mitigate the hit. And that kind of endurance is plot reliance
So what if he got burned? That’s AKAINU we’re talking about, anybody that can buy a few minutes and live to tell the tale is a strong mofo. Just compare Iva for example, Akainu literally walked over him. Dude couldn’t even buy 10 seconds of stalling. Moriah’s rival, Curiel, also got neg diffed by Akainu.
 
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Not a huge fan of the Holy Knights having regen like the Elders as well.

I was fine with the whole abyss because that was a faster way for them to arrive to Elbaf without having to sail all the way, but now with the regen, it feels super repetitive now.

So unless the Straw Hats find some way to bypass their regen somehow, the only other way I see the three Holy Knights being defeated is that they get sent back to Marijoa, similar to what happened to the Elders during the Egghead arc.
 
Scenario 1: All HKs are immortal so that there is a weakness and people that dont have CoC or part of some D clan bullshit can fight them and defeat them, same as Gorosei.

Scenario 2: Only Gunko is immortal from the HKs and its possible because Garlin was not immortal and aged, and thats when its possible that only CoC users and D clan bullshit people ( Like Law) will defeat the Gorosei.

Gunko switches sides as shes a fan of Brook idk anymore.
I don't think people should say the HK are immortal.
We know the age but regen is different than being immortal.
 
And even he doesn't look that good honestly at this point.

Strongest giant in the verse and his feats are:

-diffed by Rocks
-diffed by Rat
-diffed by Rat brother
-only 2.6 bill bounty

:josad::josad::josad:
I think you mean:

- Fought strongest Old Gen as a kid. Forced him to draw sword. 💪
- Fought strongest mid gen Yonko. Likely fought multiple gits simultaneously. 💪
- Shook Shams so bad while chained that he immediately whipped out the special df sword. 💪
- Huge special Yonko level bounty. 💪

Y'all aren't ready for HIM. :steef:
 
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Not a huge fan of the Holy Knights having regen like the Elders as well.

I was fine with the whole abyss because that was a faster way for them to arrive to Elbaf without having to sail all the way, but now with the regen, it feels super repetitive now.

So unless the Straw Hats find some way to bypass their regen somehow, the only other way I see the three Holy Knights being defeated is that they get sent back to Marijoa, similar to what happened to the Elders during the Egghead arc.
It for certain make them more deadly but yeah unless they find a way around the hax there nothing they can do.
Elbaf really could just be shorter set up arc if the knight leave .
 
So what if he got burned? That’s AKAINU we’re talking about, anybody that can buy a few minutes and live to tell the tale is a strong mofo. Just compare Iva for example, Akainu literally walked over him. Dude couldn’t even buy 10 seconds of stalling. Moriah’s rival, Curiel, also got neg diffed by Akainu.
And after Akainu got past him, Iva got up and was able to fight on without any medical treatment… again using a single moment but discounting the actual narrative.

And this was after Iva bought Jinbe time to run away.

Jinbe despite using ice water to try and counter a heat based attack, got literally destroyed.

The portrayal of Jinbe in Marineford was very clear idk why you’re ignoring him needing someone to take over Moriah for him and then needing saving from multiple other warlords
 
Scenario 1: All HKs are immortal so that there is a weakness and people that dont have CoC or part of some D clan bullshit can fight them and defeat them, same as Gorosei.

Scenario 2: Only Gunko is immortal from the HKs and its possible because Garlin was not immortal and aged, and thats when its possible that only CoC users and D clan bullshit people ( Like Law) will defeat the Gorosei.

Gunko switches sides as shes a fan of Brook idk anymore.
Or scenario 3. None of the Holy Knights are immortal, they simply have the regen.

I do now think the immortality and regen are both separate.

Maybe
 
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